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Carney & Wehofer Family
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Bef 1271 - 1368 (~ 97 years)
Generation: 1
Generation: 2
2. | Sir Patrick DUNBAR (1.Patrick1) was born about 1303 in Dunbar, East Lothian, Scotland; died on 5 Sep 1351 in Candia, Crete, Greece. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: M2R8-J37
- Name: Patrick DUNBAR, EARL OF DUNBAR, KNIGHT, CRUSADER
Patrick married Agnes RANDOLPH, Black Agnes on 18 Aug 1320. Agnes (daughter of Thomas RANDOLPH -, Earl of Moray and Lady Isabella STEWART, of Bonkyl, Countess Moray) was born about 1300 in Dunbar Castle, East Lothian, Scotland; died about 1369 in Dunbar, East Lothian, Scotland; was buried in Mordington Mains, Berwickshire, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 3. Agnes DUNBAR
was born in 1335 in Dunbar Castle; died in Oct 1378 in Lauder, Berwickshire Scotland; was buried in Newbattle, Scotland United Kingdom.
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Family/Spouse: Isabella RANDOLPH. Isabella and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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Generation: 3
3. | Agnes DUNBAR (2.Patrick2, 1.Patrick1) was born in 1335 in Dunbar Castle; died in Oct 1378 in Lauder, Berwickshire Scotland; was buried in Newbattle, Scotland United Kingdom. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: GJJ1-5VT
Agnes married Sir James DOUGLAS, of Dalkeith on 21 Nov 1372 in Scotland United Kingdom, Scotland United Kingdom. James (son of Sir John DOUGLAS, of Lothian and Agnes GRAHAM, Heiress Of Dalkeith) was born about 1350 in Dalkeith, Scotland United Kingdom; died about 1420 in Dalkeith, Scotland; was buried in 1420 in Scotland, United Kingdom. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 9. James DOUGLAS, of Dalkeith, Knight
was born in 1373 in Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland, United Kingdom; died in 1440 in Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland, United Kingdom; was buried in 1440 in Scotland, United Kingdom.
- 10. Jacoba DOUGLAS
was born in 1375 in Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland; died on 12 Jun 1410 in Cadzow, South Lanarkshire, Scotland.
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Generation: 4
9. | James DOUGLAS, of Dalkeith, Knight (3.Agnes3, 2.Patrick2, 1.Patrick1) was born in 1373 in Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland, United Kingdom; died in 1440 in Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland, United Kingdom; was buried in 1440 in Scotland, United Kingdom. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: GJJ1-5QW
Family/Spouse: Elizabeth STEWART. Elizabeth (daughter of King Robert III STEWART, of Scotland and Annabella DRUMMOND, Queen of Scotland) was born in 1386 in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland, United Kingdom; died on 3 Nov 1411 in Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland; was buried in 1411 in Scotland, United Kingdom. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 11. James DOUGLAS, 2nd Lord of Dalkeith
was born in 1395 in Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland; died on 14 Mar 1457 in Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland; was buried in 1457 in Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland, United Kingdom.
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10. | Jacoba DOUGLAS (3.Agnes3, 2.Patrick2, 1.Patrick1) was born in 1375 in Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland; died on 12 Jun 1410 in Cadzow, South Lanarkshire, Scotland. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: L6CZ-PXR
- Name: Janet DOUGLAS
Notes:
About Janet Douglas of Dalkeith
From Darryl Lundy's Peerage page on Janet Douglas:
http://thepeerage.com/p2483.htm#i24828
Janet Douglas
She was the daughter of Sir James Douglas of Dalkeith and Agnes Dunbar.[1] Janet Douglas used the stage-name of Jacoba.
A contract for the marriage of Janet Douglas and Sir John Hamilton, 4th of Cadzow was signed on 15 August 1381.
She and Sir William Douglas of Drumlanrig obtained a marriage license on 12 June 1410.
Children of Janet Douglas and Sir John Hamilton, 4th of Cadzow
1. Sir James Hamilton, 5th of Cadzow+ d. b May 1441
2. Elizabeth Hamilton+[3]
Citations
1. [S37] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes (Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003), volume 2, page 2787. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition.
2. [S37] Charles Mosley, Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition, volume 1, page 4.
3. [S37] Charles Mosley, Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition, volume 1, page 5.
From the English Wikipedia page on John Hamilton, her husband:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hamilton_of_Cadzow
John Hamilton married Janet or Jacoba Douglas, daughter of Sir James Douglas, 1st Lord Dalkeith, prior to 1388. It was thought that he had three sons by her:
1. James Hamilton of Cadzow
2. David Hamilton of Dalserf
3. Walter Hamilton of Raploch
However DNA testing of descendants of James and Walter in the Hamilton Surname DNA Project show that these two did not have the same father. The DNA project shows that the descendants of Walter and his uncle John Hamilton of Fingalton are related, which suggests that James's biological father was not from the same family.[1]
References
1. ^ "Hamilton surname DNA results". Hamilton Surname DNA Project. Last updated November 2008. Retrieved 2009-02-28.
http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/g/a/gah4/HamDNA/Results.html
From HAMILTON SURNAME DNA RESULTS AND DISCUSSION
http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/g/a/gah4/HamDNA/Results.html
It is of some interest that the mother of James1 was Jacoba (Janet) Douglas (probably born about 1372), daughter of Sir James Douglas of Dalkeith and his first wife Agnes Dunbar. Agnes apparently died about 1378. By the time of Jacoba's marriage on 1 November 1388 to Sir John Hamilton, 4th of Cadzow, Sir James Douglas was married to Egidia Stewart, a half sister of King Robert II. Since the Douglas, Dunbar (Agnes was a sister of the Earl of March) and Stewart families were so prominent in that era in Scotland, the marriage of Jacoba to Sir John Hamilton of Cadzow undoubtedly brought prestige to the Hamilton family and ultimately led to future generations of the family playing such a prominent role in Scottish society. It may be that Jacoba knew her first born son was not fathered by her husband so rather than naming him after the Hamiltons she named him after her father. James as a first name was not used by any male line descendants of Walter Fitzgilbert de Hamilton up to that time but in subsequent generations James was used for all first born sons up to the first Duke of Hamilton.
Who was the father of James1? That is not known but one can speculate. If he or other relatives left male line descendants then they should show up with the Group B profile but with a different surname. The Group B DNA profile has unusual STR values at some sites, so unusual in fact that the presence of a combination of these values for a known haplogroup I1 individual virtually ensures that the person must be closely related to the Group B Hamiltons, regardless of surname. These unusual STR values are: 7 at DYS459a, 18 at YCAIIa, and 12 at DYS640. There are individuals with 5 other surnames known to have this Group B profile and who do not have a known connection to a Hamilton; they are A-214 (surname Arthurs), F-204 (surname Frame), F-313 (surname Filby), M-183 (surname Morrison) and B-324 (surname Baker). Of these, a Frame would seem to be the most likely father for James1. There are now three Frames (Frame Group B) known to have the Hamilton Group B profile. Also, the possible close connection of the Hamiltons and the Frames is accentuated by the fact that most of those with the Frame surname (Frame Group A) have a DNA profile very similar to the Group C Hamiltons. Furthermore, the Frames like the Hamiltons, Stewarts and Douglases have had a presence in Lanarkshire and other counties of Lowland Scotland for several centuries. It should be emphasized that a Frame as the father of James1 has not been proven; it is just a current working hypothesis.
The foregoing analysis suggests that all Hamilton participants in Group B are male line descendants of just one person, namely James1. This is consistent with the limited dispersion of marker values observed for those in Group B; the dispersion is about what would be expected for a 600 year (or about 20 generation) time period. The dispersion of marker values in Group A is greater indicating that the common ancestor for all those in Group A lived in an earlier time period. Also, the fact that there are considerably more participants in Group A than in Group B implies that the Group A line was initiated earlier. It is likely that Walter Fitzgilbert himself is the ancestor for most Hamiltons in Group A but the results would be consistent with some in Group A being derived from earlier male ancestors or male cousins of Walter Fitzgilbert.
Links
http://www.clanmacfarlanegenealogy.info/genealogy/TNGWebsite/getperson.php?personID=I2081&tree=CC
http://www.thepeerage.com/p2483.htm#i24828
https://histfam.familysearch.org//getperson.php?personID=I999&tree=EuropeRoyalNobleHous
Janet (Jacoba) "Janet" Douglas Dalkeith Born 1379 in Dalkeith,Mid,Lothian,Scotlandmap Daughter of James Douglas and Agnes Dunbar Sister of William Douglas, James (Douglas) first Lord Dalkeith, Agnes Douglas and James Douglas Wife of Unknown Unknown ? married [date unknown] [location unknown] Wife of John Hamilton ? married about 1388 in ,Cadzow,Lanarkshire,Scotlandmap Mother of David Hamilton, Margery Catherine Hamilton, James (Hamilton) Hamilton fifth Laird of Cadzow, Elizabeth (Hamilton) Fraser, Walter Hamilton, Mary Hamilton and Catherine Hamilton Died May 14, 1392 in Cadzow,Paisley,Lanarkshire,Scotlandmap Profile managers: Herbert Wolfe private message [send private message] and Ted Williams private message [send private message] This page has been accessed 709 times.
Nominate for Profile of the Week by posting the link http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Douglas-588 in our G+ Community. Vote by clicking the +1 button above. Husband: James Hamilton Wife: Janet Livingstone
Child: Mary (Or Marjory) Hamilton Child: James Hamilton
Child: Alexander Hamilton Child: John Hamilton
Child: Gavin Hamilton Child: Agnes Hamilton
Child: Elizabeth Hamilton
Marriage: Date: BEF 20 OCT 1422[5] Husband: John Hamilton Wife: Jacoba (Janet) Douglas Child: Thomas Hamilton
Child: James Hamilton Child: Walter Hamilton
Child: Catherine Hamilton Child: David Hamilton
Marriage: Date: NOV 1388[6] [edit]
Contents
[hide] 1 Biography 1.1 Name 1.2 Birth 1.3 Data Changed 1.4 LDS Endowment 1.5 Event 1.6 Marriage 2 Sources 3 Biography 3.1 Name 4 Sources 5 Biography 5.1 Death 5.2 Record ID Number 5.3 User ID 5.4 Marriage 6 Sources 7 Biography 7.1 Name Biography
This biography is a rough draft. It was auto-generated by a GEDCOM import and needs to be edited.
Name
Name: Jacoba (Janet) /DOUGLAS/ [1][2][3] Name: Jacoba (Janet) /HAMILTON/ Found multiple versions of NAME. Using Jacoba (Janet) /DOUGLAS/ .
Birth
Birth: Date: ABT 1379 Place: Of, Dalkeith, MLN, Scotland[4] Data Changed
LDS Endowment
LDS Endowment: Date: 01 NOV 1934[5] Event
Event: Type: Event-Misc Place: 91K4-V5[6] Marriage
Husband: John Hamilton Wife: Jacoba (Janet) Douglas Child: Thomas Hamilton Child: James Hamilton Child: Walter Hamilton Child: Catherine Hamilton Child: David Hamilton Marriage: Date: NOV 1388[7] Sources
WikiTree profile Douglas-805 created through the import of FAMILY 6162011.GED on Jun 20, 2011 by Michael Stephenson. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Michael and others. Source: S1281 Title: Type: Ancestral File Number Abbreviation: Type: Ancestral File Number Source: S2 Title: Pedigree Resource File CD 49 Abbreviation: Pedigree Resource File CD 49 Publication: (Salt Lake City, UT: Intellectual Reserve, Inc., 2002) Source: S3 Title: Ancestral File (TM) Abbreviation: Ancestral File (TM) Author: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day SAINTS Publication: June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998 Repository: #R1 Repository: R1 Name: Unknown Source: S4 Title: hofundssonAnces.ged Abbreviation: hofundssonAnces.ged Repository: #R1 ? Source: #S2 ? Source: #S3 ? Source: #S4 ? Source: #S4 ? Source: #S4 ? Source: #S1281 ? Source: #S4
Biography
This biography is a rough draft. It was auto-generated by a GEDCOM import and needs to be edited.
Name
Name: Jacoba /Douglas/[8] Sources
WikiTree profile Douglas-832 created through the import of WILLIAMS 2011.GED on Jun 22, 2011 by Ted Williams. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Ted and others. Source: S004444 Title: Ancestry Family Trees Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members. Note: #NS044441 Repository: Note: #NS044443 No NOTE record found with id NS044441.
Note NS044443 NAME Ancestry.com ADDR http://www.Ancestry.com NOTE ? Source: #S2 ? Source: #S3 ? Source: #S4 ? Source: #S4 ? Source: #S4 ? Source: #S1281 ? Source: #S4 ? Source: #S004444 Page: Ancestry Family Trees Data: Text: http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=13078823&pid=334859309
Biography
Jacoba married Sir John HAMILTON, 4th Laird of Cadzow on 1 Nov 1388 in Cadzow, Lanarkshire, Scotland. John (son of David HAMILTON, 3rd of Cadzow and Jonetta KEITH) was born in 1370 in Lanarkshire, Scotland; died on 14 Sep 1402 in Battle Of Homildon Hill, Northumberland, England; was buried in 1402 in West Lothian, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 12. Lady Mary Marjorie HAMILTON
was born in 1395 in Lovat Castle, Kilmorack, Iverness-shire, Scotland; died on 1 Aug 1442 in Picardie, France; was buried in Jul 1442 in Dunotter Castle, Kincardineshire, Scotland.
- 13. Thomas HAMILTON
was born in 1387 in Cadzow, Lanarkshire, Scotland; and died.
- 14. Walter Thomas HAMILTON, - of Darngaber
was born in 1395 in Cadzow, Lanarkshire, Scotland; died on 20 May 1441 in Somme, Picardie, France; was buried in 1473 in Darngaber, Lanarkshire, Scotland.
- 15. David HAMILTON, - of Dalserf and Fleurs
was born in 1396 in Cadzow Castle, Lanarkshire, Scotland; died after 1476.
- 16. Elizabeth HAMILTON
was born in 1398 in Cadzow, Lanarkshire, Scotland; and died.
- 17. Michael HAMILTON
was born in in Scotland; died on 1 May 1502.
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