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Carney & Wehofer Family
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1278 - 1337 (59 years)
Generation: 1
1. | Joan ARMSTRONG, of Blackness was born in 1278 in Scotland; died in 1337 in Scotland. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: G612-WL6
- Title: ; Countess of Douglas
- Name: Joanna LOVELL
Notes:
The Life Summary of Joan
When Lady Joan Lovel - Lady Douglas was born in 1287, in Castle Cary, Somerset, England, United Kingdom, her father, Sir Richard III de Lovel, was 11 and her mother, Lady Muriel de Soules, was 11. She had at least 1 son with Sir James the Good Douglas. She died on 21 August 1337, in Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland at the age of 50, and was buried in Lanarkshire, Scotland
Joan married Sir James "The Good" DOUGLAS, of Lothian about 1304 in Midlothian, Scotland. James (son of Sir William "Le Hardi" DOUGLAS, of Hermiston and Elizabeth STEWART, of Crawford) was born about 1276 in Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland; died on 25 Aug 1330 in Battle Of Teba, Teba, Malaga, Spain; was buried in 1330 in Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland, United Kingdom. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 2. Sir John DOUGLAS, of Lothian
was born in 1303 in Douglas Castle, Lanarkshire, Scotland; died on 25 Jan 1350 in Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland; was buried in 1350 in Burial Details Unknown.
- 3. Elizabeth DOUGLAS
was born in 1305 in Loudoun, Ayrshire, Scotland; died in Nov 1357 in Linton, Roxburghshire, Scotland; was buried in 1357 in Linton Church Cemetery, Linton, Scottish Borders, Scotland.
- 4. William DOUGLAS
was born in 1305 in Douglas Castle, Lanarkshire, Scotland; died on 19 Jul 1333 in Halidon Hill, Berwick On Tweed, Northumberland, England.
- 5. Margaret DOUGLAS
was born in 1306 in Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland; and died.
- 6. Lady Joanna DOUGLAS, of Yester
was born in 1323 in Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland; died on 23 Feb 1398 in Gifford, East Lothian, Scotland; was buried in Feb 1398 in Midlothian, Scotland.
- 7. Earl Archibald "The Grim" DOUGLAS
was born in 1328 in Hermiston, Midlothian, Scotland; died on 24 Dec 1400 in Threave Castle, Dumfries, Scotland; was buried in 1400 in Bothwell, South Lanarkshire, Scotland, United Kingdom.
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Generation: 2
2. | Sir John DOUGLAS, of Lothian (1.Joan1) was born in 1303 in Douglas Castle, Lanarkshire, Scotland; died on 25 Jan 1350 in Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland; was buried in 1350 in Burial Details Unknown. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: G6W1-5D8
Family/Spouse: Agnes GRAHAM, Heiress Of Dalkeith. Agnes (daughter of Sir John DE GRAHAM, of Dalkeith, Abercorn and Eskdale and Isabella OF PERTHSHIRE) was born in 1308 in Abercorn, Linlithgowshire, Scotland; died on 1 Aug 1377 in Castle Lockleven, Kinross, Perthshire, Scotland; was buried in 1377 in Midlothia, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 8. Elizabeth DOUGLAS
was born in 1338 in East Lothian, Scotland; and died.
- 9. Sir Henry DOUGLAS, of Lugton and Lochleven
was born in 1340 in Lugton, Strathclyde, Scotland, United Kingdom; died in 1393 in Kinross, Perth and Kinross, Scotland, United Kingdom; was buried in 1393.
- 10. Sir James DOUGLAS, of Dalkeith
was born about 1350 in Dalkeith, Scotland United Kingdom; died about 1420 in Dalkeith, Scotland; was buried in 1420 in Scotland, United Kingdom.
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3. | Elizabeth DOUGLAS (1.Joan1) was born in 1305 in Loudoun, Ayrshire, Scotland; died in Nov 1357 in Linton, Roxburghshire, Scotland; was buried in 1357 in Linton Church Cemetery, Linton, Scottish Borders, Scotland. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: GJY2-JJC
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4. | William DOUGLAS (1.Joan1) was born in 1305 in Douglas Castle, Lanarkshire, Scotland; died on 19 Jul 1333 in Halidon Hill, Berwick On Tweed, Northumberland, England. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: GXFZ-KCJ
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5. | Margaret DOUGLAS (1.Joan1) was born in 1306 in Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland; and died. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: GXFZ-X1P
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6. | Lady Joanna DOUGLAS, of Yester (1.Joan1) was born in 1323 in Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland; died on 23 Feb 1398 in Gifford, East Lothian, Scotland; was buried in Feb 1398 in Midlothian, Scotland. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: GJY2-XDG
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7. | Earl Archibald "The Grim" DOUGLAS (1.Joan1) was born in 1328 in Hermiston, Midlothian, Scotland; died on 24 Dec 1400 in Threave Castle, Dumfries, Scotland; was buried in 1400 in Bothwell, South Lanarkshire, Scotland, United Kingdom. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: LBS5-G9N
- Name: Archibald DOUGLAS
- Name: Black Archibald
- Name: The Grim
- Occupation: 1361; Constable of Edinburgh Castle
- Title: 1369; Lord of Galloway
Notes:
Archibald Douglas, Earl of Douglas and Wigtown, Lord of Galloway, Douglas and Bothwell (c. 1330 ? c. 24 December 1400), called Archibald the Grim or Black Archibald, was a late medieval Scottish nobleman. Archibald was the bastard son of Sir James "the Black" Douglas, Robert I's trusted lieutenant, and an unknown mother. A first cousin of William 1st Earl of Douglas, he inherited the earldom of Douglas and its entailed estates as the third earl following the death without legitimate issue of James 2nd Earl of Douglas at the Battle of Otterburn.
Gave land to Robert Rutherford of Chatto and Jean Douglas. See, https://digital.nls.uk/histories-of-scottish-families/archive/95747959#?c=0&m=0&s=0&cv=51&xywh=548%2C1912%2C1879%2C1392
Archibald married Joan (Jean) DE MORRAY on 23 Jul 1362. Joan (daughter of Maurice MORAY and Joan MENTEITH) was born about 1340 in Drumsargard, Cambuslang, Lanarkshire, Scotland; died in Aug 1409 in Roxburghshire, Scotland; was buried in 1409 in Scotland, United Kingdom. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 11. Sir William DOUGLAS
was born about 1356 in Nithsdale, Dumfriesshire, Scotland; died in 1392 in Pomorskie, Poland; was buried in 1392 in Ayrshire, Scotland.
- 12. Archibald DOUGLAS, 4th Earl of Douglas
was born in 1369 in Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland; was christened in 1369 in Douglas Castle, Lanarkshire, Scotland; died on 17 Aug 1424 in Verneuil, France, Buried in Tours Cathedral (battle); was buried on 2 Sep 1424 in Tours Cathedral, Tours, Indre-et-Loire, Centre-Val de Loire, France.
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Generation: 3
8. | Elizabeth DOUGLAS (2.John2, 1.Joan1) was born in 1338 in East Lothian, Scotland; and died. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: GXV3-ZMK
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9. | Sir Henry DOUGLAS, of Lugton and Lochleven (2.John2, 1.Joan1) was born in 1340 in Lugton, Strathclyde, Scotland, United Kingdom; died in 1393 in Kinross, Perth and Kinross, Scotland, United Kingdom; was buried in 1393. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: G64M-8FV
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10. | Sir James DOUGLAS, of Dalkeith (2.John2, 1.Joan1) was born about 1350 in Dalkeith, Scotland United Kingdom; died about 1420 in Dalkeith, Scotland; was buried in 1420 in Scotland, United Kingdom. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: GJJ1-533
- Name: Douglas OF DALKEITH
James married Agnes DUNBAR on 21 Nov 1372 in Scotland United Kingdom, Scotland United Kingdom. Agnes (daughter of Sir Patrick DUNBAR and Agnes RANDOLPH, Black Agnes) was born in 1335 in Dunbar Castle; died in Oct 1378 in Lauder, Berwickshire Scotland; was buried in Newbattle, Scotland United Kingdom. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 13. James DOUGLAS, of Dalkeith, Knight
was born in 1373 in Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland, United Kingdom; died in 1440 in Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland, United Kingdom; was buried in 1440 in Scotland, United Kingdom.
- 14. Jacoba DOUGLAS
was born in 1375 in Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland; died on 12 Jun 1410 in Cadzow, South Lanarkshire, Scotland.
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11. | Sir William DOUGLAS (7.Archibald2, 1.Joan1) was born about 1356 in Nithsdale, Dumfriesshire, Scotland; died in 1392 in Pomorskie, Poland; was buried in 1392 in Ayrshire, Scotland. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: GDMF-G11
- _UID: 4FB76637A1D846E9BC65080C1A9E40B0284A
Notes:
Sir William Douglas of Nithsdale (c. 1370-1391 AD) was a Scottish knight and Northern Crusader.
Early life
William Douglas was an illegitimate son of Archibald the Grim, 3rd Earl of Douglas and an unknown mother.
A man of apparently dashing bearing, Douglas was with the Franco-Scots army when it unsuccessfully besieged Carlisle Castle in 1385, the defending Governor being Lord Clifford. He is recorded as there performing feats of valour and killing many Englishmen.
According to Andrew of Wyntoun:
"A yhowng joly bachelere
Prysyd gretly wes off were,
For he wes evyr traveland
Qwhille be se and qwhille be land
To skathe his fays rycht besy
Swa that thai dred him grettumly"
Marriage
Douglas certainly had gained his spurs by 1387 when he married Egidia (or Gelis) Stewart, princess of Scotland, a daughter of King Robert II. According to the Liber Pluscarden, Egidia Stewart's beauty was well renowned. Charles V of France had "sent a certain most subtle painter to do her portrait and portray her charms, intending to take her to wife." But the King of France and all other of Egidia's admirers had lost out to the chivalric charms of Douglas. As part of her marriage portion went the lands of Nithsdale in south-western Scotland, Herbertshire in the county of Stirling and an annuity of ?300.
Ireland
Within his first year of marriage the young Nithsdale led a punitive raid against Irish raiders who had been troubling the tenantry of his father's Fiefdom of Galloway. In early summer 1388, with a party of 500 well prepared veteran men-at-arms he sailed into Carlingford Lough, landed outside the town and summoned their leaders. The chief of the townsfolk offered a sum for a temporary truce, to which Nithsdale agreed. Secretly the townsfolk sent off to Dundalk for reinforcements, with which they were obliged. 800 spearmen from Dundalk surprised the Scots camp by night, and were supported by a sortie from Carlingford town. The Scots, veterans of years of brutal Border warfare, drove the Irishmen off, captured the town and burnt it, seized the Castle and captured 15 ships in the harbour. En route back to Scotland Nithsdale "ravaged" the Isle of Man. Nithsdale's expeditionary force sailed back into Loch Ryan with enough time to participate in the raiding of Northern England that was to culminate in the Battle of Otterburn on 19 August, in which he fought with distinction.
Feuding, Crusading and Death
The year after Otterburn a truce was called between Scotland and England. Nithsdale on a knightly quest for glory decided, about 1389, to join the Teutonic Knights, who were fighting the Lithuanians in Baltic region. Nithsdale had previously quarrelled with Lord Clifford, a former adversary at Carlisle and whose forebear had claimed Douglasdale under Edward I of England's oppression. While both were abroad, it is alleged that Clifford challenged Nithsdale to single combat, and that Douglas even went to France to obtain special armour for the fight. Clifford, however, died on 18 August 1391, but Nithsdale is said to have kept their 'tryst', and whilst walking upon the bridge leading to the main gate at Danzig was "killed by the English". The burghers of Danzig decided that "upon account of a signal service which the Douglas family did to this city in relieving it in its utmost extremities against the Poles, the Scotch were allowed to be free burghers of the town". Subsequently, the stone fascia of the Hohe Thor (High Gate) was adorned with the coat of arms of this nobleman and for centuries it was commonly referred to as the Douglas Port or Douglas Gate, described as such as late as 1734.
In 1391, Douglas was in the Baltic, and became involved in a brawl with Sir Thomas de Clifford, in which Douglas was killed.
Issue
By Princess Egidia, Nithsdale had two children:
1.)Egidia Douglas, known as the "Fair Maid of Nithsdale" married:
a.) Henry Sinclair, 2nd Earl of Orkney (d. 1422)
b.) Sir Alasdair Stewart (executed 1425) son of Murdoch Stewart, 2nd Duke of Albany
2.) Sir William Douglas, Knt., Lord of Nithsdale (d.c.1419), knighted when very young as he is described as chevalier in a safe-conduct dated 30 January 1406, when he could not have been more than nineteen.
William married Princess Egidia STUART, Of Scottland in 1387 in Fordoun, Kincardineshire, Scotland. Egidia (daughter of King Robert II Of SCOTLAND and Euphemia De ROSS) was born in 1368 in Dundonald Castle, Irvine, Ayrshire, Scotland; died in 1388 in Irvine, Ayrshire, Scotland; was buried in 1388 in Ayr, Strathclyde, Scotland, United Kingdom. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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12. | Archibald DOUGLAS, 4th Earl of Douglas (7.Archibald2, 1.Joan1) was born in 1369 in Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland; was christened in 1369 in Douglas Castle, Lanarkshire, Scotland; died on 17 Aug 1424 in Verneuil, France, Buried in Tours Cathedral (battle); was buried on 2 Sep 1424 in Tours Cathedral, Tours, Indre-et-Loire, Centre-Val de Loire, France. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: GJY2-KSJ
- TitleOfNobility: ; Earl of Wigtown, Annandale, Galloway, & Bothwell
- TitleOfNobility: ; Prince of Scotland
- TitleOfNobility: ; Sir Knight
- Name: Archibald "Tyneman" DOUGLAS
- Name: Archibald DOUGLAS
- Occupation: ; Marechal of France
- MilitaryService: 14 Sep 1402, Homildon Hill, Wooler, Northumberland, England; Fought at Battle of Homildon Hill and was captured by the English, but escaped
Notes:
Archibald was the Duke of Touraine, Earl of Wigtown, Lord of Annandale, Lord of Galloway, Lord of Bothwell and the 13th Lord of Douglas. He was thus a Scottish nobleman and warlord. At times Archibald was given the nickname of Tyneman, which in the old Scottish language means loser. This may have been in reference to his great uncle Sir Archibald Douglas as well.
The Early Years
Archibald was the illegitimate son of Archibald Douglas and Joanna de Moravia of
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Threave Castle
Bothwell. He was either born at Threave Castle or Bothwell Castle. Until Archibald's accession he was known as Master of Douglas. In 1390, when he was twenty years old he married Princess Margaret of Carrick. Margaret was the daughter of King Robert III of Scotland. It was at about this time that his father had bestowed upon him regalities of Ettrick Forest, Lauderdale and Romannobridge and Peeblesshire. Then on June 4, 1400 at the age of thirty, the King of Scotland, Robert, had appointed Archibald the keeper of Edinburgh Castle for the remainder of his life, with a pension of two hundred marks a year.
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Bothwell Castle
Renewal of Percy vs. Douglas
In 1400, at Candlemas, the Earl of March, George I, and Henry 'Hotspur' Percy had entered Scotland lying waste as far as Papple in East Lothian. The villages of Traprain, Markle and Hailes were burned to the ground and two unsuccessful attempts were made at Hailes Castle. Now the Master of Douglas, who had also held the office of Lord Warden of the Marches, surprised them by night at their camp near East Linton and would then defeat the English Force. Archibald had managed to chase his enemy as far as Berwick upon Tweed, slaughtering any stragglers in the woods close to Cockburnspath.
The Siege of Edinburgh
Later on that year, in summer, Archibald would be made second in command to David Stewart, the Duke of Rothesay who was Lieutenant of the Kingdom, during the siege of Edinburgh Castle by Henry IV. Henry would be unsuccessful in his endeavors. With Owain Glyndwr's rebellion gathering in Wales he would become the last English monarch that would ever invade Scotland in person.
Archibald's father died later on that year at Christmas. Before his passing, he held vast lordships that stretched from Galloway, Douglasdale, Moray, and Clydesdale to the shires of Stirling and Selkirk. He also was lord over the forfeited lands of the Earl of Dunbar in Lothian and the Merse.
Two years later, Archibald's brother-in-law and heir to the throne, David Stewart, the Duke of Rothesay, was held captive. He was first held at Bishop's Palace at St. Andrews, then at the Royal Palace of Falkland. While here, Duke David would pass away on the 27th of March. It has been alleged that he had died under mysterious circumstances. He was only twenty-four and had been in good health prior to his passing. Rumors were started saying that he David had been starved to death in the Falkland's pit prison. Prince David was also arrested under a warrant that had been issued in the name of his father, by his uncle, Robert Stewart, the Duke of Albany, and Douglas. Both Albany and Douglas were rumored to have been the authors of any foul play that was suspected. This can be shown by the fact that both of the men were summoned to appear before Parliament.
On the 16th of March both of the men were acquitted when Parliament had passed an act that stated that the Prince had "departed this life through Divine Providence, and not otherwise". This would clear both of the men from High Treason and any other crime. Any of the king's subjects were strictly forbid to make the slightest imputation on their fame. This action could be considered to be a whitewash, as the Kingdom of Scotland couldn't afford to lose its two most powerful men due to the renewed English hostility. Archibald and Albany were considered to be the only fit antidote to the traitor Earl of March and his English allies.
Homildon Hill
On the 22nd of June 1402, a small Scottish force would be beaten by George Dunbar, the Earl of March's son, at the Battle of Nesbit Moor. Archibald would lead a raid with Murdoch of Fife, Albany's son, as far as Newcastle to avenge this battle. At the head of 10,000 men, Archibald, and his men would lay waste to all of Northumberland.
George Dunbar would persuade Henry Percy, the 1st Earl of Northumberland, and his son Harry "Hotspur" Percy to lie in wait for the returning Scots at Wooler. Once Archibald's men had made their camp at Millfield, which was relatively low ground, the English would rush them. The Scots, however, had keen sentries and the army was able to retreat to the higher ground of Homildon Hill.
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Homildon Hill memorial marker today
At Homildon Hill they organized themselves in the traditional Schiltron formations. Archibald didn't learn any lessons from his great uncle's Battle at Halidon Hill seventy years before. The Schiltrons had presented a large target for the English long bowmen, and the formations began to break. A hundred men, under Sir John Swinton of the Swintons of that Ilk, had decided to charge the enemy saying "Better to die in the mellay than be shot down like deer". All would die.
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Schiltron Formation represented in the movie Braveheart
It has been suggested that Archibald had hesitated to signal the advance of his main force, but when he did, it was too little too late. Archibald's mauled army would meet with the, as yet unbloodied, English men at arms and were routed. Many of his leading captains would be captured, including his kinsman George Douglas, the 1st Earl of Angus, Thomas Dunbar, the 5th Earl of Moray, and Murdoch of Fife. Archibald himself would be captured as well, after he was wounded five times, including the lose of his eye.
If the Percys and other English knights had thought that they had gained great immediate riches from their ransoms, they were to be disappointed. They would receive a message from King Henry congratulating them for their victory but forbidding the release of any of their prisoners.
In 1403, Henry Hotspur was in an open rebellion against the king and joined his kinsman, Thomas Percy, the Earl of Worcester, while Owain Glyndwry was undertaking a campaign against the English rule in Wales. Hotspur would set free his Scottish captives and Archibald, with his co-prisoners, decided to fight alongside their former captors. In the chivalric spirit of the time, Archibald marched with his former enemy, Hotspur, and his forces to meet with King Henry IV at the Battle of Shrewsbury. The result of this battle of a decisive Royalist victory. Henry Hotspur would be killed by an arrow through his mouth. Archibald was, yet again, captured. This time he would suffer from a loss of a testicle, after he had fought gallantly on the field and personally had killed Edmund Stafford, the 5th Earl of Stafford and Sir Walter Blount.
Prisoner of King Henry
Archibald was now a captive of King Henry IV. The cost for the ransom of the Scot nobles that were taken at Homildon would prove to be difficult for the impoverished Scottish exchequer. When Prince James of Scotland was also captured while en route to France by some English pirates in 1406, the position would seem to be impossible.
The aged King Robert III would die of his grief not long after. The Kingdom of the Scots was now in the hands of the Duke of Albany de jure, as well as de facto.
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King Henry IV
After giving an oath on the Holy Scripture to King Henry to be his man above all others, except for King James, and on the production of suitable hostages for his parole, Archibald was allowed to return to his estates to carry out his private affairs. He would agree, again under oath, to return to captivity in England on an appointed day.
At Easter, Archibald went north and hadn't returned on his aforesaid day. King Henry wrote to his regent, Albany, complaining of this "un-knightly" behavior and had warned him that, unless Archibald would return the other hostages would be dealt with at his pleasure. Archibald still did not return. After a payment of 700 merks in 1413 to the King of England, Henry V, the hostages were released.
Political Machinations
In 1412, Archibald would go to Flanders and then to France. After he had arrived in Paris he would start negotiations with John 'The Fearless', Duke of Burgundy. They would end up agreeing to a mutual defense and offense pact in their respective countries.
Archibald had also resumed his duties as the Lord Warden of the Marches not long after returning to Scotland. While at the border he had free reign to defend it and to keep the peace. However, it appears that Albany wasn't prepared to do this. Archibald would recover his costs from his customs fees on all trade goods that were entering the country.
Then in 1416, while King James was still a hostage in England, Archibald had visited London twice to enter negotiations for his release. While he was there the Lollard faction, during Henry V's absence in France, had tried to persuade the Scottish delegates to go on an offensive. Albany decided this to be the opportune moment to reclaim Berwick-upon-Tweed. He gathered an army to take it and then despatched Archibald to Roxburgh Castle, which was also held by the English.
When the Scots had learned of the huge army that was led by King Henry's brother, John of Lancaster, the 1st Duke of Bedford, and Thomas Beaufort, the Duke of Exeter, they decided to retreat. Following their devastation in Teviotdale and Liddesdale, and the burning of the towns of Selkirk, Jedburgh and Hawick, the raid was known as the "Foul Raid".
The Great Scottish Army
Archibald's son, the Earl of Wigtoun, were fighting in France along with his son-in-law, Buchan, They were able to inflict a heavy defeat over the English at the Battle of Bauge in 1421.
Archibald married Lady Margaret STEWART in 1390 in Scotland. Margaret (daughter of King Robert III STEWART, of Scotland and Annabella DRUMMOND, Queen of Scotland) was born in 1370 in Dunfermline, Fifeshire, Schotland; died in Sep 1456 in Thrieve Castle, Galloway, Scotland; was buried in Sep 1456 in Dumfries, Dumfriesshire, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 17. Archibald DOUGLAS, 5th Earl of Douglas
was born in 1390 in Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland; died on 26 Jun 1439 in Restalrig, Midlothian, Scotland; was buried in 1439 in Douglas, South Lanarkshire, Scotland, United Kingdom.
- 18. William DOUGLAS, 2nd Lord of Cavers
was born in 1395 in Douglas Castle, Lanarkshire, Scotland; died on 8 Jan 1464 in Hawick, Roxburghshire, Scotland.
- 19. Mary DOUGLAS
was born in 1398 in Mochrum, Wigtownshire, Scotland; died in 1448 in Scotland, United Kingdom.
- 20. Elizabeth DOUGLAS
was born in 1401 in Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland; died in 1451 in Traquair, Scottish Borders, Scotland, United Kingdom; was buried in 1451 in Traquair, Scottish Borders, Scotland, United Kingdom.
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Generation: 4
13. | James DOUGLAS, of Dalkeith, Knight (10.James3, 2.John2, 1.Joan1) was born in 1373 in Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland, United Kingdom; died in 1440 in Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland, United Kingdom; was buried in 1440 in Scotland, United Kingdom. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: GJJ1-5QW
Family/Spouse: Elizabeth STEWART. Elizabeth (daughter of King Robert III STEWART, of Scotland and Annabella DRUMMOND, Queen of Scotland) was born in 1386 in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland, United Kingdom; died on 3 Nov 1411 in Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland; was buried in 1411 in Scotland, United Kingdom. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 21. James DOUGLAS, 2nd Lord of Dalkeith
was born in 1395 in Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland; died on 14 Mar 1457 in Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland; was buried in 1457 in Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland, United Kingdom.
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14. | Jacoba DOUGLAS (10.James3, 2.John2, 1.Joan1) was born in 1375 in Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland; died on 12 Jun 1410 in Cadzow, South Lanarkshire, Scotland. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: L6CZ-PXR
- Name: Janet DOUGLAS
Notes:
About Janet Douglas of Dalkeith
From Darryl Lundy's Peerage page on Janet Douglas:
http://thepeerage.com/p2483.htm#i24828
Janet Douglas
She was the daughter of Sir James Douglas of Dalkeith and Agnes Dunbar.[1] Janet Douglas used the stage-name of Jacoba.
A contract for the marriage of Janet Douglas and Sir John Hamilton, 4th of Cadzow was signed on 15 August 1381.
She and Sir William Douglas of Drumlanrig obtained a marriage license on 12 June 1410.
Children of Janet Douglas and Sir John Hamilton, 4th of Cadzow
1. Sir James Hamilton, 5th of Cadzow+ d. b May 1441
2. Elizabeth Hamilton+[3]
Citations
1. [S37] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes (Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003), volume 2, page 2787. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition.
2. [S37] Charles Mosley, Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition, volume 1, page 4.
3. [S37] Charles Mosley, Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition, volume 1, page 5.
From the English Wikipedia page on John Hamilton, her husband:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hamilton_of_Cadzow
John Hamilton married Janet or Jacoba Douglas, daughter of Sir James Douglas, 1st Lord Dalkeith, prior to 1388. It was thought that he had three sons by her:
1. James Hamilton of Cadzow
2. David Hamilton of Dalserf
3. Walter Hamilton of Raploch
However DNA testing of descendants of James and Walter in the Hamilton Surname DNA Project show that these two did not have the same father. The DNA project shows that the descendants of Walter and his uncle John Hamilton of Fingalton are related, which suggests that James's biological father was not from the same family.[1]
References
1. ^ "Hamilton surname DNA results". Hamilton Surname DNA Project. Last updated November 2008. Retrieved 2009-02-28.
http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/g/a/gah4/HamDNA/Results.html
From HAMILTON SURNAME DNA RESULTS AND DISCUSSION
http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/g/a/gah4/HamDNA/Results.html
It is of some interest that the mother of James1 was Jacoba (Janet) Douglas (probably born about 1372), daughter of Sir James Douglas of Dalkeith and his first wife Agnes Dunbar. Agnes apparently died about 1378. By the time of Jacoba's marriage on 1 November 1388 to Sir John Hamilton, 4th of Cadzow, Sir James Douglas was married to Egidia Stewart, a half sister of King Robert II. Since the Douglas, Dunbar (Agnes was a sister of the Earl of March) and Stewart families were so prominent in that era in Scotland, the marriage of Jacoba to Sir John Hamilton of Cadzow undoubtedly brought prestige to the Hamilton family and ultimately led to future generations of the family playing such a prominent role in Scottish society. It may be that Jacoba knew her first born son was not fathered by her husband so rather than naming him after the Hamiltons she named him after her father. James as a first name was not used by any male line descendants of Walter Fitzgilbert de Hamilton up to that time but in subsequent generations James was used for all first born sons up to the first Duke of Hamilton.
Who was the father of James1? That is not known but one can speculate. If he or other relatives left male line descendants then they should show up with the Group B profile but with a different surname. The Group B DNA profile has unusual STR values at some sites, so unusual in fact that the presence of a combination of these values for a known haplogroup I1 individual virtually ensures that the person must be closely related to the Group B Hamiltons, regardless of surname. These unusual STR values are: 7 at DYS459a, 18 at YCAIIa, and 12 at DYS640. There are individuals with 5 other surnames known to have this Group B profile and who do not have a known connection to a Hamilton; they are A-214 (surname Arthurs), F-204 (surname Frame), F-313 (surname Filby), M-183 (surname Morrison) and B-324 (surname Baker). Of these, a Frame would seem to be the most likely father for James1. There are now three Frames (Frame Group B) known to have the Hamilton Group B profile. Also, the possible close connection of the Hamiltons and the Frames is accentuated by the fact that most of those with the Frame surname (Frame Group A) have a DNA profile very similar to the Group C Hamiltons. Furthermore, the Frames like the Hamiltons, Stewarts and Douglases have had a presence in Lanarkshire and other counties of Lowland Scotland for several centuries. It should be emphasized that a Frame as the father of James1 has not been proven; it is just a current working hypothesis.
The foregoing analysis suggests that all Hamilton participants in Group B are male line descendants of just one person, namely James1. This is consistent with the limited dispersion of marker values observed for those in Group B; the dispersion is about what would be expected for a 600 year (or about 20 generation) time period. The dispersion of marker values in Group A is greater indicating that the common ancestor for all those in Group A lived in an earlier time period. Also, the fact that there are considerably more participants in Group A than in Group B implies that the Group A line was initiated earlier. It is likely that Walter Fitzgilbert himself is the ancestor for most Hamiltons in Group A but the results would be consistent with some in Group A being derived from earlier male ancestors or male cousins of Walter Fitzgilbert.
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Janet (Jacoba) "Janet" Douglas Dalkeith Born 1379 in Dalkeith,Mid,Lothian,Scotlandmap Daughter of James Douglas and Agnes Dunbar Sister of William Douglas, James (Douglas) first Lord Dalkeith, Agnes Douglas and James Douglas Wife of Unknown Unknown ? married [date unknown] [location unknown] Wife of John Hamilton ? married about 1388 in ,Cadzow,Lanarkshire,Scotlandmap Mother of David Hamilton, Margery Catherine Hamilton, James (Hamilton) Hamilton fifth Laird of Cadzow, Elizabeth (Hamilton) Fraser, Walter Hamilton, Mary Hamilton and Catherine Hamilton Died May 14, 1392 in Cadzow,Paisley,Lanarkshire,Scotlandmap Profile managers: Herbert Wolfe private message [send private message] and Ted Williams private message [send private message] This page has been accessed 709 times.
Nominate for Profile of the Week by posting the link http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Douglas-588 in our G+ Community. Vote by clicking the +1 button above. Husband: James Hamilton Wife: Janet Livingstone
Child: Mary (Or Marjory) Hamilton Child: James Hamilton
Child: Alexander Hamilton Child: John Hamilton
Child: Gavin Hamilton Child: Agnes Hamilton
Child: Elizabeth Hamilton
Marriage: Date: BEF 20 OCT 1422[5] Husband: John Hamilton Wife: Jacoba (Janet) Douglas Child: Thomas Hamilton
Child: James Hamilton Child: Walter Hamilton
Child: Catherine Hamilton Child: David Hamilton
Marriage: Date: NOV 1388[6] [edit]
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[hide] 1 Biography 1.1 Name 1.2 Birth 1.3 Data Changed 1.4 LDS Endowment 1.5 Event 1.6 Marriage 2 Sources 3 Biography 3.1 Name 4 Sources 5 Biography 5.1 Death 5.2 Record ID Number 5.3 User ID 5.4 Marriage 6 Sources 7 Biography 7.1 Name Biography
This biography is a rough draft. It was auto-generated by a GEDCOM import and needs to be edited.
Name
Name: Jacoba (Janet) /DOUGLAS/ [1][2][3] Name: Jacoba (Janet) /HAMILTON/ Found multiple versions of NAME. Using Jacoba (Janet) /DOUGLAS/ .
Birth
Birth: Date: ABT 1379 Place: Of, Dalkeith, MLN, Scotland[4] Data Changed
LDS Endowment
LDS Endowment: Date: 01 NOV 1934[5] Event
Event: Type: Event-Misc Place: 91K4-V5[6] Marriage
Husband: John Hamilton Wife: Jacoba (Janet) Douglas Child: Thomas Hamilton Child: James Hamilton Child: Walter Hamilton Child: Catherine Hamilton Child: David Hamilton Marriage: Date: NOV 1388[7] Sources
WikiTree profile Douglas-805 created through the import of FAMILY 6162011.GED on Jun 20, 2011 by Michael Stephenson. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Michael and others. Source: S1281 Title: Type: Ancestral File Number Abbreviation: Type: Ancestral File Number Source: S2 Title: Pedigree Resource File CD 49 Abbreviation: Pedigree Resource File CD 49 Publication: (Salt Lake City, UT: Intellectual Reserve, Inc., 2002) Source: S3 Title: Ancestral File (TM) Abbreviation: Ancestral File (TM) Author: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day SAINTS Publication: June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998 Repository: #R1 Repository: R1 Name: Unknown Source: S4 Title: hofundssonAnces.ged Abbreviation: hofundssonAnces.ged Repository: #R1 ? Source: #S2 ? Source: #S3 ? Source: #S4 ? Source: #S4 ? Source: #S4 ? Source: #S1281 ? Source: #S4
Biography
This biography is a rough draft. It was auto-generated by a GEDCOM import and needs to be edited.
Name
Name: Jacoba /Douglas/[8] Sources
WikiTree profile Douglas-832 created through the import of WILLIAMS 2011.GED on Jun 22, 2011 by Ted Williams. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Ted and others. Source: S004444 Title: Ancestry Family Trees Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members. Note: #NS044441 Repository: Note: #NS044443 No NOTE record found with id NS044441.
Note NS044443 NAME Ancestry.com ADDR http://www.Ancestry.com NOTE ? Source: #S2 ? Source: #S3 ? Source: #S4 ? Source: #S4 ? Source: #S4 ? Source: #S1281 ? Source: #S4 ? Source: #S004444 Page: Ancestry Family Trees Data: Text: http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=13078823&pid=334859309
Biography
Jacoba married Sir John HAMILTON, 4th Laird of Cadzow on 1 Nov 1388 in Cadzow, Lanarkshire, Scotland. John (son of David HAMILTON, 3rd of Cadzow and Jonetta KEITH) was born in 1370 in Lanarkshire, Scotland; died on 14 Sep 1402 in Battle Of Homildon Hill, Northumberland, England; was buried in 1402 in West Lothian, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 22. Lady Mary Marjorie HAMILTON
was born in 1395 in Lovat Castle, Kilmorack, Iverness-shire, Scotland; died on 1 Aug 1442 in Picardie, France; was buried in Jul 1442 in Dunotter Castle, Kincardineshire, Scotland.
- 23. Thomas HAMILTON
was born in 1387 in Cadzow, Lanarkshire, Scotland; and died.
- 24. Walter Thomas HAMILTON, - of Darngaber
was born in 1395 in Cadzow, Lanarkshire, Scotland; died on 20 May 1441 in Somme, Picardie, France; was buried in 1473 in Darngaber, Lanarkshire, Scotland.
- 25. David HAMILTON, - of Dalserf and Fleurs
was born in 1396 in Cadzow Castle, Lanarkshire, Scotland; died after 1476.
- 26. Elizabeth HAMILTON
was born in 1398 in Cadzow, Lanarkshire, Scotland; and died.
- 27. Michael HAMILTON
was born in in Scotland; died on 1 May 1502.
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15. | Egidia (Jill) DOUGLAS (11.William3, 7.Archibald2, 1.Joan1) was born about 1375 in Nithsdale, Dumfriesshire, Scotland; died about 1438 in Orkney Islands, Orkney, Scotland; was buried about 1438 in Orkney Islands, Orkney, Scotland. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: LRPD-JTK
- TitleOfNobility: ; Countess of Orkney
- Name: Jill DOUGLAS
- _UID: 01DD4444D66C462B9B44534276C7276253E7
Egidia married Earl Henry SINCLAIR, Of Or on 17 Nov 1407 in Perth, Perthshire, Scotland. Henry (son of Henry SINCLAIR and Jean HALYBURTON) was born on 24 May 1373 in Orkney Islands, Orkney, Scotland; died on 1 Feb 1421 in Orkney Islands, Orkney, Scotland; was buried in Roslin, Midlothian, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 28. Beatrice SINCLAIR, Countess of Douglas
was born after 1404 in Brechin, Lanarkshire, Scotland; died in 1463 in Lanarkshire, Scotland, United Kingdom; was buried in 1463 in Douglas, South Lanarkshire, Scotland, United Kingdom.
- 29. Katherine SINCLAIR
was born in 1405 in Herdmanston, East Lothian, Scotland; died in 1449 in Seton, East Lothian, , Scotland.
- 30. William SINCLAIR
was born in 1408 in Roslin, Midlothian, Scotland; died on 29 Mar 1484 in Kirkcaldy, Fife, Scotland; was buried in Kirkcaldy Old Kirk Churchyard, Kirkcaldy, Fife, Scotland.
- 31. Elizabeth SINCLAIR
was born in 1410 in Dunbeath, Caithness, Scotland; died on 8 Feb 1462 in Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland.
- 32. Margaret SINCLAIR
was born in 1418 in Dunbeath Castle, Caithness, Scotland; died on 8 Feb 1462 in Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland.
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17. | Archibald DOUGLAS, 5th Earl of Douglas (12.Archibald3, 7.Archibald2, 1.Joan1) was born in 1390 in Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland; died on 26 Jun 1439 in Restalrig, Midlothian, Scotland; was buried in 1439 in Douglas, South Lanarkshire, Scotland, United Kingdom. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: LTVP-8HV
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19. | Mary DOUGLAS (12.Archibald3, 7.Archibald2, 1.Joan1) was born in 1398 in Mochrum, Wigtownshire, Scotland; died in 1448 in Scotland, United Kingdom. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: LHVT-87N
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20. | Elizabeth DOUGLAS (12.Archibald3, 7.Archibald2, 1.Joan1) was born in 1401 in Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland; died in 1451 in Traquair, Scottish Borders, Scotland, United Kingdom; was buried in 1451 in Traquair, Scottish Borders, Scotland, United Kingdom. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: LCCP-BCX
- TitleOfNobility: ; Countess of Buchan
- TitleOfNobility: ; Countess of Ross
- _UID: A3A34B6730434281A1F34EAFE93E488AB8B4
Elizabeth married William SINCLAIR about 1431 in Scotland. William (son of Earl Henry SINCLAIR, Of Or and Egidia (Jill) DOUGLAS) was born in 1408 in Roslin, Midlothian, Scotland; died on 29 Mar 1484 in Kirkcaldy, Fife, Scotland; was buried in Kirkcaldy Old Kirk Churchyard, Kirkcaldy, Fife, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 33. Catherine SINCLAIR
was born in 1434 in Scotland; died in 1479 in Scotland, United Kingdom.
- 34. Baron William SINCLAIR
was born about 1435 in Newburgh, Foveran, Aberdeenshire, England; died after Jul 1487.
- 35. Elizabeth SINCLAIR
was born in 1440 in Caithness, Scotland, United Kingdom; died in 1508 in Rothes, Morayshire, Scotland, United Kingdom.
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