Sir John HAMILTON, 4th Laird of Cadzow

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• MilitaryService: 14 Sep 1402, Northumberland, England; Battle of Homildun Hill

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SIR JOHN HAMILTON OF CADZOW
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Sir John Hamilton of Cadzow, 4th Laird of Cadzow (b. bef. 1370 ? d. c. 1402) was a Scottish nobleman and soldier.

He succeeded his father, David Hamilton of Cadzow, no later than 1392, when he appears on a charter of Andrew Murray of Touchadam as Dominus de Cadzow.

He was imprisoned, along with his brothers William and Andrew, in Norwich, in 1396. Richard II of England ordered their release from the Mayor and bailies of that city on 29 June. It appears that their imprisonment was due to violations of the truce between the Kingdoms of England and Scotland. A John Hamilton, either his brother John Hamilton of Bardowie, or uncle, John Hamilton of Fingalton was released from the Tower of London on the same date. Hamilton and his uncle seem to have found themselves guests of the English again, when at a meeting of Border commissioners at Hawdenstank, on 28 October 1398, the first point of business was the release of Hamilton of Cadzow, and Hamilton of Fingalton and others in their entourage. The Hamiltons had been caught at sea by English privateers, again in violation of the truce. The English were urged to release the ship and restore their goods to them, or alternatively pay suitable recompense.

There is no record of Hamilton's death, though it is possible that he was one of the prisoner fatalities at the Battle of Homildon Hill in 1402, where a Sir John Hamilton, elder, appears on a list of captives.

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From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hamilton_of_Cadzow He was imprisoned, along with his brothers William and Andrew, in Norwich, in 1396. Richard II of England ordered their release from the Mayor and bailies of that city on 29 June. It appears that their imprisonment was due to violations of the truce between the Kingdoms of England and Scotland. A John Hamilton, either his brother John Hamilton of Bardowie, or uncle, John Hamilton of Fingalton was released from the Tower of London on the same date. Hamilton and his uncle seem to have found themselves guests of the English again, when at a meeting of Border commissioners at Hawdenstank, on 28 October 1398, the first point of business was the release of Hamilton of Cadzow, and Hamilton of Fingalton and others in their entourage. The Hamiltons had been caught at sea by English privateers, again in violation of the truce. The English were urged to release the ship and restore their goods to them, or alternatively pay suitable recompense.
Sir John Hamilton of Cadzow, 4th Laird of Cadzow (b. bef. 1370 ? d. c. 1402) was a Scottish nobleman and soldier.

He succeeded his father, David Hamilton of Cadzow, no later than 1392, when he appears on a charter of Andrew Murray of Touchadam as Dominus de Cadzow.

He was imprisoned, along with his brothers William and Andrew, in Norwich, in 1396. Richard II of England ordered their release from the Mayor and bailies of that city on 29 June. It appears that their imprisonment was due to violations of the truce between the Kingdoms of England and Scotland. A John Hamilton, either his brother John Hamilton of Bardowie, or uncle, John Hamilton of Fingalton was released from the Tower of London on the same date. Hamilton and his uncle seem to have found themselves guests of the English again, when at a meeting of Border commissioners at Hawdenstank, on 28 October 1398, the first point of business was the release of Hamilton of Cadzow, and Hamilton of Fingalton and others in their entourage. The Hamiltons had been caught at sea by English privateers, again in violation of the truce. The English were urged to release the ship and restore their goods to them, or alternatively pay suitable recompense.

There is no record of Hamilton's death, though it is possible that he was one of the prisoner fatalities at the Battle of Homildon Hill in 1402, where a Sir John Hamilton, elder, appears on a list of captives.

Marriage and Issue

John Hamilton married Janet or Jacoba Douglas, prior to 1388. By her he had three sons:

* James Hamilton of Cadzow
* David Hamilton of Dalserf
* Walter Hamilton of Raploch
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2.[S289] Betty and Dick Field's Family History, Richard Field

Sir John Hamilton, 4th of Cadzow was the son of Sir David Hamilton, 3rd of Cadzow and Janet Keith. He married Janet Douglas, daughter of Sir James Douglas of Dalkeith and Agnes Dunbar.

Children of Sir John Hamilton, 4th of Cadzow and Janet Douglas Sir James Hamilton, 5th of Cadzow+ d. b May 1441 Elizabeth Hamilton+

John Hamilton of Cadzow From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_John_Hamilton_of_Cadzow

Sir John Hamilton of Cadzow, 4th Laird of Cadzow (b. bef. 1370 ? d. c. 1402) was a Scottish nobleman and soldier.

He succeeded his father, David Hamilton of Cadzow, no later than 1392, when he appears on a charter of Andrew Murray of Touchadam as Dominus de Cadzow.

He was imprisoned, along with his brothers William and Andrew, in Norwich, in 1396. Richard II of England ordered their release from the Mayor and bailies of that city on 29 June. It appears that their imprisonment was due to violations of the truce between the Kingdoms of England and Scotland. A John Hamilton, either his brother John Hamilton of Bardowie, or uncle, John Hamilton of Fingalton was released from the Tower of London on the same date. Hamilton and his uncle seem to have found themselves guests of the English again, when at a meeting of Border commissioners at Hawdenstank, on 28 October 1398, the first point of business was the release of Hamilton of Cadzow, and Hamilton of Fingalton and others in their entourage. The Hamiltons had been caught at sea by English privateers, again in violation of the truce. The English were urged to release the ship and restore their goods to them, or alternatively pay suitable recompense.

There is no record of Hamilton's death, though it is possible that he was one of the prisoner fatalities at the Battle of Homildon Hill in 1402, where a Sir John Hamilton, elder, appears on a list of captives.

Marriage and Issue John Hamilton married Janet or Jacoba Douglas, prior to 1388. By her he had three sons:

James Hamilton of Cadzow David Hamilton of Dalserf Walter Hamilton of Raploch

John Hamilton Born about 1371 in Lanarkshire,Scotlandmap Son of David (Hamilton) Third Laird Cadzow and Janet (Keith) Hamilton [sibling(s) unknown] Husband of Janet Douglas Dalkeith ? married about 1388 in ,Cadzow,Lanarkshire,Scotlandmap Father of Margery Catherine Hamilton, Elizabeth (Hamilton) Fraser, Walter Hamilton, Mary Hamilton, Catherine Hamilton andThomas Hamilton Died about September 14, 1402 in Battle of Homildon,Northumberland,Englandmap [uncertain] Profile managers: Terry Wright private message [send private message], Herbert Wolfe private message [send private message], Jonathon Dale Walter Myers private message [send private message], Ted Williams private message [send private message], John Hunter private message [send private message], and Spencer MacPhail private message [send private message] Last profile change on 4 August 2014 02:03: John Hunter edited the data for John Hamilton. (The father of this person is unknown and is NOT John Hamilton - see the results of extensive genetic testing around this issue.) [Thank John for this] This page has been accessed 1,299 times.

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Sir John Hamilton, 4th Baron of Cadzow

Note that different authoritative sources list his offspring differently. The 2003 edition of Burke's (1) list the following:

1. James 2. Elizabeth 3. Mary and (illegitimate):

4. Walter 5. Thomas whereas Anderson (2) lists:

1. James 2. David 3. Thomas 4. Catherine and Hamilton (3) lists:

1. James 2. David 3. Walter 4. Catherine Hamilton argues "On 20 May 1441, Sir James of Hamilton. Kt, Lord of Cadzow. granted to his cousin, ,James of Hamilton. son of the late Walter? of Hamilton. the lands of Raploche. (Witnesses: John of Hamilton and Gawaine of Hamilton brothers of the grantor, Arthur of Hamilton. Alexander of Hamilton and Thomas of Hamilton of Neilsland. This charter indicates, by its stated relationship of Sir James Hamilton to the grantee that the founder of the Raploch branch of the family was Walter Hamilton.

In relation to his reported first son however, as a result of extensive genetic genealogy research carried out by the Hamilton Surname Project, it has now been shown that contrary to popular belief John, the 4th Baron of Cadzow cannot have been the father of James (5th Baron of Cadzow).

Genetic testing of numerous descendants of James has shown that he carried a particular genetic marker on his Y chromosome. This marker, an SNP (single nucleotide polymorphism), is designated L-1237.

Similar testing involving descendants of John (ie James' half brothers) as well as descendants of John's non-lineal ancestors (uncles etc) has indicated that all of these males carry the SNP L-338.

This is further explained in the following extract (4):

Until a few years ago it was thought that James Hamilton (the 5th of Cadzow) was the son of John Hamilton the 4th of Cadzow but through the marvels of genetic testing it is now quite clear that this just cannot be. Who the actual father was is still a mystery but his genetic "finger-print" is known and the search goes on.

Two papers have been combined into one on the Internet and are highly recommended for anyone interested in exploring this mystery. One of the papers also gives an excellent account of the politics of the time providing an essential background to the emergence of this branc

John married Jacoba DOUGLAS on 1 Nov 1388 in Cadzow, Lanarkshire, Scotland. Jacoba (daughter of Sir James DOUGLAS, of Dalkeith and Agnes DUNBAR) was born in 1375 in Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland; died on 12 Jun 1410 in Cadzow, South Lanarkshire, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Mary Hamilton -- Birthdate: 1388 (54) Birthplace: Scotland Died 1442 Deathplace: Picardy, France
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Daughter of Sir James Hamilton of Cadzow
Wife of Sir William Keith, Kt.
Mother of William Keith, 1st Earl Marischal; Thomas Keith; John Keith; Margaret Keith; Agnes Keith; David Keith; James Keith; Cadzow Keith; Catherine Keith and Egidia Keith

Mary married Sir William DE KEITH, 1st Earl of Marischal on 26 Apr 1414 in Dunnottar, Kincardineshire, Scotland. William (son of Robert KEITH, Marischal of Scotland and Lady Matilda TROUP, Baroness of Dunottar) was born in 1389 in Dunnottar Castle, Stonehaven, Kincardineshire, Scotland; was christened in in Kincardine, Inverness-shire, Scotland; died on 16 Mar 1475 in Dunnottar Castle, Stonehaven, Kincardineshire, Scotland; was buried in 1464 in Dunnottar, Kincardineshire, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Name: 2nd Earl MARISCHAL

Family/Spouse: Lady Mary Mariot ERSKINE, COUNTESS MARISCHAL. Mary (daughter of Thomas ERSKINE and Janet Elisabeth DOUGLAS) was born in 1440 in Selkirk, Selkirkshire, Scotland; died in 1482 in Dunnotar Castle, Kincardineshire, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Name: Sir William Lord de Marischal KEITH

William married Lady Elizabeth GORDON on 11 Jan 1482 in Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland. Elizabeth (daughter of Sir George GORDON, Of Huntly and Lady Annabella Beaufort STEWART, Princess of Scotland) was born in 1462 in Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland; died on 22 Apr 1525 in Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]