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Carney & Wehofer Family
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1437 - 1509 (72 years)
Generation: 1
1. | James OGILVY was born in 1437 in Deskford, Banffshire, Scotland; died on 13 Feb 1509 in Fordyce, Aberdeenshire, Scotland; was buried in 1509 in Deskford, Banffshire, Scotland. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: MB4H-G6F
- NationalId: ; Sir Walter Ogilvie of Auchleven's Heir
- Name: James Ogilvy (Ogilvie)
- Occupation: ; Knight, Lord of Deskford & Findlater
James married Margaret INNES in 1456 in Innes, Elginshire, Scotland. Margaret (daughter of Robert INNES, 11th of Innes, of that Ilk and Lady Angelica Rosa DOUGLAS, Of Drumlanrig) was born about 1440 in Deskford, Banffshire, Scotland; died on 4 Feb 1522 in Banff, Banffshire, Scotland; was buried in 1522 in Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 2. Katherine OGILVY was born about 1458 in Findlater, Banff, Banffshire, Scotland; died in 1505 in Ross & Cromarty, Scotland.
- 3. Margaret-nic-James OGILVY, of Deskford and Findlater was born in 1469 in Banff, Banffshire, Scotland; died in 1550 in Drum Castle, Aberdeenshire, Scotland; was buried in 1550 in Scotland.
- 4. James OGILVY, 3rd of Deskford and Findlater was born about 1475 in Scotland; died about 1505; was buried in Fordyce, , Aberdeenshire, Scotland.
- 5. John OGILVY was born in 1478 in Deskford, Banffshire, Scotland; died after 4 Feb 1521.
- 6. Agnes OGILVY was born in 1480 in Deskford, Banffshire, Scotland; and died.
- 7. Janet OGILVY was born about 1485 in Findlater, Deskford, Banff, Scotland; and died.
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Family/Spouse: Mary DOUGLAS. Mary was born about 1450 in Atholl, Angus, Scotland; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 8. Alexander OGILVY was born about 1471 in Airlie, Forfar, Scotland; and died.
- 9. Malcolm OGILVY was born about 1472 in Airlie, Forfar, Scotland; died after 1501.
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Generation: 2
2. | Katherine OGILVY (1.James1) was born about 1458 in Findlater, Banff, Banffshire, Scotland; died in 1505 in Ross & Cromarty, Scotland. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: KCLW-PKK
Family/Spouse: Alexander URQUHART, 6th of Cromarty. Alexander was born about 1445 in Cromarty, Cromartyshire, Scotland; died on 25 Aug 1504 in Cromarty, Cromartyshire, Scotland; was buried on 25 Aug 1504 in Cromarty, Cromartyshire, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 10. Agnes URQUHART, of Cromarty was born on 1 Oct 1485 in Cromarty, Cromartyshire, Scotland; died before 1517 in Cromartyshire, Scotland; was buried in Scotland.
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4. | James OGILVY, 3rd of Deskford and Findlater (1.James1) was born about 1475 in Scotland; died about 1505; was buried in Fordyce, , Aberdeenshire, Scotland. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: GP7Z-2JS
James married Agnes GORDON, of Huntly about 1493. Agnes (daughter of Sir George GORDON, Of Huntly and Elizabeth HAY, of Errol - Countess of Huntly) was born in 1472 in Huntley Castle, Aberdeenshire, Scotland; died on 22 Apr 1525 in Findlater Castle, Banff, Aberdeenshire, Scotland; was buried in 1525 in Aberdeenshire, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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5. | John OGILVY (1.James1) was born in 1478 in Deskford, Banffshire, Scotland; died after 4 Feb 1521. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: GH3V-5H3
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6. | Agnes OGILVY (1.James1) was born in 1480 in Deskford, Banffshire, Scotland; and died. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: LVP7-WS1
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7. | Janet OGILVY (1.James1) was born about 1485 in Findlater, Deskford, Banff, Scotland; and died. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: GH3K-95Q
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8. | Alexander OGILVY (1.James1) was born about 1471 in Airlie, Forfar, Scotland; and died. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: KZHK-KW4
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9. | Malcolm OGILVY (1.James1) was born about 1472 in Airlie, Forfar, Scotland; died after 1501. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: M468-1HP
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Generation: 3
10. | Agnes URQUHART, of Cromarty (2.Katherine2, 1.James1) was born on 1 Oct 1485 in Cromarty, Cromartyshire, Scotland; died before 1517 in Cromartyshire, Scotland; was buried in Scotland. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: LKPW-H57
Agnes married Lord Hugh ROSE, 9th of Kilravock 9th of Clan Rose in 1499 in Cromarty, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland. Hugh (son of Hugh ROSE, 8th of Kilravock, 8th of Clan Rose and Isabel SUTHERLAND, of Berriedale) was born in 1474 in Kilravock Castle, Inverness-Shire, Scotland; died in 1543 in Kilravock, Nairnshire, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 12. William ROSE was born in 1510 in Kilravock Castle, Nairnshire, Scotland, United Kingdom; died on 10 Jun 1597.
- 13. John - Iain-mac-a-Bharon ROSE, 1st Rose of Wester Drakies - Provost of Inverness was born in 1512 in Kilravock, Nairnshire, Scotland; died on 10 Jun 1597.
- 14. Margaret ROSE, of Kilravock was born in 1512 in Inverness-shire, Scotland; died in 1545.
- 15. Hugh ROSE, 10th of Kilvarock, 10th of Clan Rose was born in 1515 in Kilravock, Nairnshire, Scotland; died on 10 Jun 1597 in Kilravock, Nairnshire, Scotland; was buried in Hill of Fearn, Highland, Scotland.
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11. | Alexander OGILVY, 4th of Deskford and Findlater, Lord Ogilvy of Deskford - 1st Earl of Findlater (4.James2, 1.James1) was born in Mar 1494 in Deskford, Banffshire, Scotland; died on 4 Jul 1554 in Cullen, Moray, Scotland; was buried in Cullen, Moray, Scotland. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: GG3Y-YMF
Notes:
Alexander Ogilvy, 4th of Deskford and Findlater was the son of James Ogilvy, 3rd of Deskford and Findlater and Lady Agnes Gordon.
He married,
? firstly, Janet Abernethy, daughter of James Abernethy, 3rd Lord Saltoun of Abernethy and unknown wife (?).1
He married,
? secondly, Elizabeth Gordon, daughter of Adam Gordon, before 1535.1
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He died in July 1544.
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He resigned his lands to the Crown, creating the Barony of Ogilvy which was entailed on him and his heirs.
Children of Alexander Ogilvy, 4th of Deskford and Findlater and Janet Abernethy
James Ogilvy of Cardell+3 d. b 29 Apr 1578
Margaret Ogilvy+2
Marioun Ogilvy+4
Janet Ogilvy+3
Marjorie Ogilvy3 b. c 1550
Citations
[S37] BP2003 volume 3, page 3550. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S37]
[S4053] Christopher Davis, "re: Barton Family," e-mail message to Darryl Roger LUNDY (101053), 30 October 2009. Hereinafter cited as "re: Barton Family."
[S6286] Clan MacFarlane and associated clans genealogy, online http://www.clanmacfarlanegenealogy.info. Hereinafter cited as Clan MacFarlane.
[S37] BP2003. [S37]
Family/Spouse: Lady Janet ABERNETHY, of Abernethy. Janet (daughter of Lord Saltoun James ABERNETHY, of Abernethy and Margaret Isabella Bethia WYLIE FORBES) was born in 1480 in Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland; died on 22 Apr 1525 in Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland; was buried in , , Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 16. James OGILVIE was born in 1494 in Scotland; died in in Scotland.
- 17. Elizabeth OGILVY was born in 1500 in Banffshire, Scotland; died in 1527 in Scotland.
- 18. James OGILVIE, of Cardell was born in 1505 in Findlater, Banff, Scotland; died on 19 Apr 1578 in Scotland; was buried in 1578 in Scotland.
- 19. Margaret-nic-Alexander OGILVIE, of Findlater was born in 1507 in Banff, Banffshire, Scotland; died on 6 Sep 1558 in Barony, Lanarkshire, Scotland; was buried in Sep 1558.
- 20. Alexander OGILVY was born about 1508 in Scotland; and died.
- 21. Elizabeth OGILVY was born in 1512 in Findlater, Banffshire, Scotland; died in 1600 in Drum Castle, Aberdeenshire, Scotland.
- 22. Lady Janet OGILVY was born in 1510 in Glenorchy, Lorn, Scotland; died in 1626 in Drum Castle, Aberdeenshire, Scotland.
- 23. Lady Marion OGILVY was born in 1510 in Deskford, Banffshire, Scotland; died on 6 Sep 1558 in Kirriemuir, Angus, Scotland.
- 24. James OGILVIE, of Deskford and Findlater - 1st of Cardell was born about 1515; died before 29 Apr 1578 in Scotland.
- 25. Marioun-nic-Alexander OGILVY, of Deskford and Findlater was born about 1518 in Scotland; died on 6 Sep 1558 in Kirriemuir, Forfarshire, Scotland.
- 26. Elizabeth OGILVY was born about 1520 in Scotland, United Kingdom; and died.
- 27. Margaret OGILVY, of Findlater was born in 1522 in Findlater, Banffshire, Scotland; died after 1602; was buried in Kirriemuir, Angus, Scotland.
- 28. Janet OGILVY was born in 1525 in of, Aberdeenshire, Scotland; died on 6 Jan 1547 in Gamrie Church, Gamrie, Banffshire, Grampian, Scotland, United Kingdom; was buried in Gamrie, , Aberdeenshire, Scotland.
- 29. Helen OGILVY was born about 1540 in Scotland; died before 1620 in Dumfries-shire, Scotland.
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Generation: 4
12. | William ROSE (10.Agnes3, 2.Katherine2, 1.James1) was born in 1510 in Kilravock Castle, Nairnshire, Scotland, United Kingdom; died on 10 Jun 1597. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: GW4B-TCD
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15. | Hugh ROSE, 10th of Kilvarock, 10th of Clan Rose (10.Agnes3, 2.Katherine2, 1.James1) was born in 1515 in Kilravock, Nairnshire, Scotland; died on 10 Jun 1597 in Kilravock, Nairnshire, Scotland; was buried in Hill of Fearn, Highland, Scotland. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: LVDP-F8M
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21. | Elizabeth OGILVY (11.Alexander3, 4.James2, 1.James1) was born in 1512 in Findlater, Banffshire, Scotland; died in 1600 in Drum Castle, Aberdeenshire, Scotland. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: LYQN-DGL
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22. | Lady Janet OGILVY (11.Alexander3, 4.James2, 1.James1) was born in 1510 in Glenorchy, Lorn, Scotland; died in 1626 in Drum Castle, Aberdeenshire, Scotland. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: GPQ6-L63
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23. | Lady Marion OGILVY (11.Alexander3, 4.James2, 1.James1) was born in 1510 in Deskford, Banffshire, Scotland; died on 6 Sep 1558 in Kirriemuir, Angus, Scotland. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: GPQ6-V24
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27. | Margaret OGILVY, of Findlater (11.Alexander3, 4.James2, 1.James1) was born in 1522 in Findlater, Banffshire, Scotland; died after 1602; was buried in Kirriemuir, Angus, Scotland. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: LBFT-8MP
Notes:
he daughter of Alexander Ogilvie 1st of Findlater married Walter Barclay of Gartly, who died in 1532. After his death, she then married James Gordon 1st of Lesmoir by 1546. Her second husband, James Gordon, did not die until June 1558.
If William Macintosh's wife was named 'Margaret' and the daughter of Alexander Ogilvie of that Ilk, it's impossible to see how Margaret Ogilvy's marriage to William Macintosh could fit into this timeline, since, as stated above, she was still William's wife in 1549, just before his death.
The problem may have arisen in a confusion of Christian names. 'Margaret', 'Mariot', 'Mary', 'Marion' and 'Marjory', for a variety of reasons linked to transcription where more than one language is in use (see Research Notes on Mariot le Chen), are often confused, especially within a family.
An example from another Ogilvy family may help clarify the matter. Sir Walter Ogilvy of Boyne and Christian Keith had two daughters: 'Margaret', married twice, first to John Stewart then to George Barclay; and 'Marjory' married to James Dunbar of Tarbat. Yet we still find, in papers of the Ogilvy family, 'Marjory' also named as 'Margaret':
"1555 October 24
Contract between Walter Ogilvy of Boyne kt and Margaret Ogilvy his daughter on one part, and James Dunbar of Terbert and James Dunbar, his son and apparent heir, on other part, whereby said Margaret is to marry said James younger, before next Easter, etc. Traces of 2 applied seals." (GD248/82/4)
It may be that the woman who married William Macintosh was the subject of a similar confusion
Family/Spouse: Walter BARCLAY, 18th of Gartley. Walter (son of Sir James BARCLAY, 18th of Gartley and Lady Christian STEWART) was born in 1506 in Gartly, Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland; died in 1542 in Scotland, United Kingdom. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 30. Sir George BARCLAY was born in 1534 in Gartley, Aberdeenshire, Scotland; died in 1602 in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland.
- 31. Jean BARCLAY was born in in Barclay, Fife, Scotland; died on 6 Aug 1684 in East Lothian, Scotland, United Kingdom.
- 32. Walter BARCLAY, Laird of Ballinagoak was born about 1521 in Gartly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland, United Kingdom; died in 1602 in Kynnarroquhy, Aberdeen, Scotlandm United Kingdom.
- 33. Elizabeth BARCLAY was born about 1525 in Gartly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland, United Kingdom; and died.
- 34. Margaret BARCLAY was born about 1527 in Gartly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland, United Kingdom; and died.
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28. | Janet OGILVY (11.Alexander3, 4.James2, 1.James1) was born in 1525 in of, Aberdeenshire, Scotland; died on 6 Jan 1547 in Gamrie Church, Gamrie, Banffshire, Grampian, Scotland, United Kingdom; was buried in Gamrie, , Aberdeenshire, Scotland. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: L4W2-4RY
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29. | Helen OGILVY (11.Alexander3, 4.James2, 1.James1) was born about 1540 in Scotland; died before 1620 in Dumfries-shire, Scotland. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: GPQ6-ZXM
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