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Family/Spouse: Lady Agathe OGILVY. Agathe (daughter of Patrick OGILVIE and Marjory RAMSAY) was born in 1329 in Kirkton of Auchterhouse, Angus, Escocia, Scotland; died between 9 Jan 1365 and 8 Jan 1366 in Angusshire, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Family/Spouse: Walter OGILVY. Walter (son of Walter OGILVIE and Christina KEITH) was born in 1347 in Auchterhouse, Angus, Scotland; died in 1391 in Glscune, Angus, Scotland; was buried in 1392 in Moulin, Perthshire, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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By Isabel de Durward, heiress of Lintrathen, he had two sons and a daughter. The sons were: Sir John of Lintrathen, his heir, whose son, Sir James Ogilvy of Airlie, was created by James IV on 28 April 1491 a peer of parliament by the title of Lord Ogilvy of Airlie; and Sir Walter of Auchleven, whose eldest son, Sir James, was ancestor of the Ogilvys, earls of Findlater, and whose second son. Sir Walter Ogilvy of Boyne, was ancestor of the lords of Banff. The daughter, Giles, was married to Sir William Arbuthnott of Arbuthnott.
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About Sir Walter Ogilvy of Lintrathen, 1st Lord High Treasurer of Scotland
From Darryl Lundy's Peerage page on Walther Ogilvy of Lintrathen:

http://thepeerage.com/p10823.htm#i108230

Sir Walter Ogilvy of Lintrathen1

M, #108230,
d. 1440
Last Edited=22 Feb 2011
Consanguinity Index=1.56%
Sir Walter Ogilvy of Lintrathen married, firstly, unknown Durward.[1]

He married, secondly, Isabel Glen, daughter of Sir John Glen and Margaret Erskine of Inchmartin, after 1427.[2],[1]

He died in 1440.[1]

He was the son of Sir Walter Ogilvy of Auchterhouse and Isabel Ramsay.[1]

He held the office of High Treasurer [Scotland] in 1425.[3]
He lived at Lintrathen, Angus, Scotland.[2]
He was a Commissioner to England negotiating for peace between 1431 and 1437.[3]
Children of Sir Walter Ogilvy of Lintrathen and unknown Durward

1. Sir John Ogilvy of Lintrathen+[1] b. b 1414, d. Jun 1489
2. James Ogilvy [1] b. b 1427
Children of Sir Walter Ogilvy of Lintrathen and Isabel Glen

1. Isabel Ogilvy+[4] d. 1484
2. Walter Ogilvy+[1]
3. Giles Ogilvy [5]
4. David Ogilvy [1] b. b 28 Jan 1426/27
5. Alexander Ogilvy [1] b. b 1440
6. Patrick Ogilvy [1] b. b 1440
7. George Ogilvy [1] b. b 1440
Citations

1. [S8] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition, 2 volumes (Crans, Switzerland: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 1999), volume 1, page 45. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition.
2. [S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume VII, page 121. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
3. [S323] Sir James Balfour Paul, The Scots Peerage: founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's The Peerage of Scotland (Edinburgh, Scotland: David Douglas, 1904), volume I, page 111. Hereinafter cited as The Scots Peerage.
4. [S11] Alison Weir, Britain's Royal Family: A Complete Genealogy (London, U.K.: The Bodley Head, 1999), page 228. Hereinafter cited as Britain's Royal Family.
5. [S323] Sir James Balfour Paul, The Scots Peerage, volume I, page 112.
From the English Wikipedia page on Lord High Treasurer of Scotland:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treasurer_of_Scotland

The Treasurer was a senior post in the pre-Union government of Scotland, the Privy Council of Scotland.

The full title of the post was Lord High Treasurer, Comptroller, Collector-General and Treasurer of the New Augmentation, formed as it was from the amalgamation of four earlier offices. Of these, the Treasurer and Comptroller had originated in 1425 when the Chamberlain's financial functions were transferred to them.[1]

Source:

1. ^ Accounts of the Lord High Treasurer, vol. 1, (1877), xiv.
Lord High Treasurer

Walter was from Auchterhouse, co. Angus and was Sheriff of co. Angus. He died at the battle of Glenbrierachan.
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Birth of Walter
Probably Auchterhouse, Forfarshire, Scotland

Walter married Isabel GLEN about 1400 in Bridgend of Lintrathen, Forfarshire, Scotland. Isabel (daughter of Sir John DE GLEN, of Inchmartin and Balmuto and Lady Margaret ERSKINE, Countess of Balmuto) was born in 1380 in Lintrathen, Forfarshire, Scotland; died after 1440 in Lintrathen, Forfarshire, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Family/Spouse: Sir John SCRYMGEOUR, "Baron of Glassary, 6th Constable of Dundee Lord of Dudhope". Sir was born about 1388 in Dudhope Castle, Dundee, Angus, Scotland; died on 8 Aug 1466 in Forfar, Angus, Scotland, United Kingdom. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Family/Spouse: Robert ARBUTHNOT, 10th Of Arbuthnot. Robert was born about 1400 in Kincardineshire, Scotland; died on 21 Feb 1450 in Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• TitleOfNobility: ; Baron of Auchlevyn
• Name: Walter Ogilvy
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Walter married Margaretha SINCLAIR about 1436 in Scotland. Margaretha (daughter of Sir John SINCLAIR, Of Deskford and Mary Elizabeth DOUGLAS, Countess of Buchan, Orkney and Caithness) was born in 1410 in Forfar, Forfarshire, Scotland; died on 8 Feb 1462 in Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland; was buried in Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• TitleOfNobility: ; Baroness of Glamis

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Isabel, said to have been married, first, to Patrick Lord Glamis, and, secondly, to Gilbert, first Lord Kennedy, and to have died in 1484.

Source: THE SCOTS PEERAGE, ed. by Sir James Balfour Paul, Vol I, Edinburgh, 1906, pp. 111-113
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Judging from the period at which their children began to take an active part in public life, the marriage of Lord Glamis with Isobel Ogilvy, daughter of sir Walter Ogilvy of Lintrathen, must have taken place soon after his return from England in 1427.

After her first husband's death, Lady Glamis married Gilbert, first Lord Kennedy, who she also survived.

She had a full share of the pugnacity of the race from which she sprang. She fought her sons, her tenants, her neighbors, and her creditors, and had a tough struggle with the representatives of her second husband for the possession of the family place

On 20 June 1480 she entered into an indenture with the Prior and convent of the Preaching Dominicans, Friars of Ayr, who with consent of Brother John More, Vicar-General of that order in Scotland, agreed, in return for a liberal endowment of lands in the town and sheriffdom of Ayr, to perform divine service for the benefit of the souls of James and Margaret, King and Queen of Scotland, of Isobel herself, and her father and mother, and of Patrick, Lord Glamis, and Gilbert Kennedy, Lord of that Ilk, her husbands.

After Lord Kennedy's death, who was succeeded by his son by a previous marriage, her ladyship was reconciled to her family, and returned to Forfarshire. 'She in her widdoweheid finished the old House of Glams, built the two ston bridges, and the ille in the Kirk of Glames, wherein, with her first husband, she was interred in anno 1484, as the inscription upon the tomb bears witnes.;

By her, Lord Glamis had issue:

1. Alexander, second Lord Glamis.
2. John, third Lord Glamis
3. William of Pettanys. He obtained a charter of Easter Ogil ...
4. Patrick, Styled brother-german of Alexander, Lord Glamis
5. Elizabeth, married, before 1 April 1460 to Alexander Robertson of Strowane.

Source: THE SCOTS PEERAGE, ed. by Sir James Balfour Paul, Vol VIII, Edinburgh, 1906, pp. 270-3.
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... the marriage of Patrick, lord Glamis, and his wife, Issobel Ogilvy, who is said to have been a daughter of Sir Walter Ogilvy of Lintrathen, must have taken place soon after Patrick's return from England in 1427... After her first husband's death, lady Glamis married Gilbert, first lord Kennedy, whom she also survived.

Her motherhood to Alexander and John, who succeeded in turn to the honours of the house, is proved in the course of her numerous litigations, for she had her full share of the pugnacity of her race. She fought her sons, her tenants, her neighbours, and her creditors, and had a tough struggle with the representatives of her second husband for the possession of the family plate. After the death of lord Kennedy, (who was succeeded in that title by John, second lord Kennedy, his son by a previous marriage), lady Glamis was reconciled to her family, and returned to Forfarshire; and in the ms. of 1631, it is recorded that "she in her widdowehead finished the old house of Glamis, built the two ston bridges and the ille in the kirk of Glames wherin with her first husband she was interred in anno 1484 as the inscription upon the tomb bears wittnes."

There were at least four children of the marriage:

1. Alexander, who succeeded as second lord Glamis
2. John, who succeeded as third lord Glamis
3. William of Pettanys and Easter Ogil
4. Elizabeth, wife of Alexander Robertson of Strowane

Source: THE LYONS OF COSSINS AND WESTER OGIL, Cadets of Glamis, by Andrew Ross, Edinburgh, 1901, pp. 15-16.
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Family/Spouse: Gilbert KENNEDY, of Dunure - 1st Lord Kennedy. Gilbert was born in 1455 in Maybole, South Ayrshire, Scotland, United Kingdom; died in 1500 in Scotland, United Kingdom. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Patrick LYON, 1st Lord of Glamis. Patrick was born on 10 Oct 1402 in Glamis, Forfarshire, Scotland; died on 21 Mar 1459 in Belhelvie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland; was buried in Mar 1459 in Glamis, Forfarshire, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Egidia married Viscount Thomas LUMSDEN, of Conland in Scotland. Thomas was born in 1389 in Lumsden, Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland; died in 1470 in Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• TitleOfNobility: ; Knight
• Name: John of Lintrathen

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The Life Summary of John
When Sir John Ogilvy of Lintrathen was born in 1412, in Lintrathen, Forfarshire, Scotland, United Kingdom, his father, Walter Ogilvy, was 38 and his mother, Isabel Glen, was 32. He married Margaret Seton about 1425, in Scotland. They were the parents of at least 4 sons and 3 daughters. He died in June 1489, in Forfarshire, Scotland, at the age of 77, and was buried in Scotland.SIR JOHN OGILVY OF LINTRATHEN was born about 1402 of Bridgend of Lintrathen, Angus, Scotland, to Sir Walter Ogilvie of Lintrathen (1369-1440) and Isabel Jean Durward Heiress (1380-1421.) He married Margaret Seton about 1429 of Forfar, Angus, Scotland.

John Ogilvy died about 1489 of Airlie, Angusshire, Scotland, age 87.


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Children: David of Newtoun, Thomas Abbott of Cowpar, Christian Forbes of Pitsligo, Marion Stewart.
John of Ogilvie of Lentrethin, knight, was a member of the council who signed the indenture between the King and Council and Robert, Lord Erskine, made at Stirling on 10 August, 1440, giving the Castle of Kildromie, and half the Earldom of Mar to Robert Lord Erskine.[1]

MARGARET SETON was born about 1398 of Seton, Haddingtonshire, Scotland, to Lord William Seton (1349-1424) and Lady Janet Dunbar (1380-1430.) She married Sir John Ogilvy about 1429 of Forfar, Angus, Scotland.

Margaret Seton passed away about 1471 of Seton, Haddingtonshire, Scotland, age 73.


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It is suggested here that Margaret was born about 1410 daughter to Alexander Seaton of Gordon. (note that a generation earlier John Ogilvy of Inverquharity married Marion Seaton a daughter of Willaim Seaton of Gordon.)
Margaret is known only as Margaret, Lady Ogilvy, Countess of Moray. It thus appears that she married firstly to James Dunbar, earl of Moray who died about 10 Aug 1430. He was released as a hostage for King James I in 1427 and probably at the time he succeeded to the earldom and married on his return. It is said by MacFarlane but without confirmation that the earl married Katherine or Janet a daughter of Alexander Seaton of Gordon. It thus appears probable that Margaret was that widowed Countess.
By James Dunbar margaret had two daughters:
1. Elizabeth, (or Mary or Agnes0 who married before 26 April 1442, to Archibald Douglas, who was created Earl of Moray.
2. Janet, married, between 1442 and 1446, to James,second Lord Crichton.

After the death of her first husband, Margaret, Countess of Moray married Sir John Ogilvy of Lintrathen about 1431.


Children of John Ogilvy and Margaret Seton:

1.Mariote Ogilvy (1415-)
2.*SIR ALEXANDER OGILVIE (1416-1497)
3.Elizabeth Ogilvy of Lintrath (1425-)
4.Baron James I Ogilvy (1430-1504)
5.Isobel Ogilvy (1442-)
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John married Margaret SETON, Countess of Moray about 1425 in Scotland. Margaret (daughter of William SETON, 1st Lord Seton and Lady Janet FLEMING, Baroness Of Seton) was born in 1405 in Seton Castle, Tranent, East Lothian, Scotland; died on 7 Feb 1478 in Carlaverock, Dumfries-shire, Scotland; was buried in 1471 in Seton, Haddingtonshire, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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