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Robert RAMSAY -, First Laird of Auchterhouse

Robert RAMSAY -, First Laird of Auchterhouse

Male 1267 - 1350  (82 years)

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  1. 1.  Robert RAMSAY -, First Laird of AuchterhouseRobert RAMSAY -, First Laird of Auchterhouse was born on 8 Jan 1267 in Dundee, Forfarshire, Scotland; died in 1350 in Dundee, Angus, Scotland, United Kingdom; was buried about 1350 in Dundee, Angus, Escocia, Reino Unido.

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    • FamilySearch ID: GQL8-ZNC

    Family/Spouse: Lady RAMSAY. Lady was born about 1267 in Scotland, United Kingdom; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. Marjory RAMSAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1339 in Auchterhouse, Forfarshire, Scotland; died in in Wester Powerie, Forfarshire, Scotland.
    2. 3. Sir Malcolm RAMSAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1298 in Auchterhouse, Forfarshire, Scotland; died in 1365 in Auchterhouse, Angus, Scotland, United Kingdom.
    3. 4. Henry RAMSAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1300 in Auchterhouse, Dundee, Angus, Scotland; died in 1341 in Auchterhouse, Dundee, Angus, Scotland.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Marjory RAMSAYMarjory RAMSAY Descendancy chart to this point (1.Robert1) was born about 1339 in Auchterhouse, Forfarshire, Scotland; died in in Wester Powerie, Forfarshire, Scotland.

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    • FamilySearch ID: G4R7-9K7
    • Name: Marjory Ramsay

    Family/Spouse: Patrick OGILVIE. Patrick (son of Patrick OGILVEY and Marjory GREY) was born in 1281 in Forfarshire, Scotland; died in in Auchterhouse, Forfarshire, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 5. Walter OGILVIE  Descendancy chart to this point was born in in Wester Powie, Angusshire, Scotland.; died in 1365 in Kirkton of Auchterhouse, Forfarshire, Scotland.
    2. 6. Lady Agathe OGILVY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1329 in Kirkton of Auchterhouse, Angus, Escocia, Scotland; died between 9 Jan 1365 and 8 Jan 1366 in Angusshire, Scotland.
    3. 7. Margaret OGILVY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1359 in Forfarshire, Scotland; died in Deceased.

  2. 3.  Sir Malcolm RAMSAYSir Malcolm RAMSAY Descendancy chart to this point (1.Robert1) was born in 1298 in Auchterhouse, Forfarshire, Scotland; died in 1365 in Auchterhouse, Angus, Scotland, United Kingdom.

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    • FamilySearch ID: GHRT-31K


  3. 4.  Henry RAMSAYHenry RAMSAY Descendancy chart to this point (1.Robert1) was born in 1300 in Auchterhouse, Dundee, Angus, Scotland; died in 1341 in Auchterhouse, Dundee, Angus, Scotland.

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    • FamilySearch ID: GWJB-Z88



Generation: 3

  1. 5.  Walter OGILVIEWalter OGILVIE Descendancy chart to this point (2.Marjory2, 1.Robert1) was born in in Wester Powie, Angusshire, Scotland.; died in 1365 in Kirkton of Auchterhouse, Forfarshire, Scotland.

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    • FamilySearch ID: G8Y9-QRB
    • TitleOfNobility: ; Earl of Powry and Auchterhouse
    • Name: Walter Ogilvy
    • Occupation: ; Sheriff of Forfar

    Family/Spouse: Christina KEITH. Christina (daughter of John KEITH and Isabella DE SOULIS) was born in 1319 in Auchterhouse, Angushire, Scotland; died in 1380 in Haddington, East Lothian, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 8. Walter OGILVY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1347 in Auchterhouse, Angus, Scotland; died in 1391 in Glscune, Angus, Scotland; was buried in 1392 in Moulin, Perthshire, Scotland.
    2. 9. Patrick OGILVY OR OGILVIE  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1349 in Europe; and died.

  2. 6.  Lady Agathe OGILVYLady Agathe OGILVY Descendancy chart to this point (2.Marjory2, 1.Robert1) was born in 1329 in Kirkton of Auchterhouse, Angus, Escocia, Scotland; died between 9 Jan 1365 and 8 Jan 1366 in Angusshire, Scotland.

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    • FamilySearch ID: GD9S-ZWV
    • Name: Agathe Ogilvie

    Family/Spouse: Malcolm RAMSAY. Malcolm was born in 1325 in Kirkton on Auchterhouse, Angus, Scotland; died in 1365 in Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 10. Isabel RAMSAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1350 in Auchterhouse, Angus, Scotland; died in 1403 in Auchterhouse, Angus, Scotland.
    2. 11. John RAMSAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1350 in Scotland; died in in Suffolk, England.

  3. 7.  Margaret OGILVYMargaret OGILVY Descendancy chart to this point (2.Marjory2, 1.Robert1) was born in 1359 in Forfarshire, Scotland; died in Deceased.

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    • FamilySearch ID: GL2Z-3NH



Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Walter OGILVYWalter OGILVY Descendancy chart to this point (5.Walter3, 2.Marjory2, 1.Robert1) was born in 1347 in Auchterhouse, Angus, Scotland; died in 1391 in Glscune, Angus, Scotland; was buried in 1392 in Moulin, Perthshire, Scotland.

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    • FamilySearch ID: L1XK-NGF
    • TitleOfNobility: ; Sheriff of Angus

    Notes:

    About Sir Walter Ogilvy of Auchterhouse
    Sir Walter Ogilvy, of Auchterhouse; married Isabel, daughter and heir of Sir Malcolm Ramsay; and was killed in a skirmish with robbers 1391. [Burke's Peerage]

    From Darryl Lundy's Peerage page on Sir Walter Ogilvy of Auchterhouse:

    http://thepeerage.com/p291.htm#i2908

    Sir Walter Ogilvy of Auchterhouse [1]

    M, #2908,
    b. circa 1360,
    d. 1392
    Last Edited=22 Feb 2011
    Sir Walter Ogilvy of Auchterhouse was born circa 1360.[2]

    He married Isabel Ramsay, daughter of Sir Malcolm Ramsay, circa 1380.[1],[2]

    He died in 1392, killed in action.[1],[3]

    He was the son of Walter Ogilvy of Wester Powry and Auchterhouse.[1]

    He held the office of Sheriff of Forfarshire.[1]
    He lived at Auchterhouse, Angus, Scotland.[1]
    He fought in the Battle of Glasklune in 1392, against Highland invaders.[3]
    Children of Sir Walter Ogilvy of Auchterhouse and Isabel Ramsay

    1. Sir Alexander Ogilvy of Auchterhouse+[1] d. bt 14 Jul 1421 - 2 Oct 1483
    2. Sir Walter Ogilvy of Lintrathen+[1] d. 1440
    3. John Ogilvy [1]
    4. George Ogilvy [3] d. 1411
    Child of Sir Walter Ogilvy of Auchterhouse

    1. Henry Ogilvy [4]
    Citations

    1. [S8] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition, 2 volumes (Crans, Switzerland: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 1999), volume 1, page 45. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition.
    2. [S5162] Werner Kittel, "re: Normandy FAmilies," e-mail message to Darryl Roger LUNDY (101053), 4 February 2011. Hereinafter cited as "re: Normanday Families."
    3. [S37] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes (Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003), volume 1, page 59. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition.
    4. [S323] Sir James Balfour Paul, The Scots Peerage: founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's The Peerage of Scotland (Edinburgh, Scotland: David Douglas, 1904), volume I, page 111. Hereinafter cited as The Scots Peerage.
    From "Duncan the fat's descendants become Robertsons" by Joe Adair:

    http://www.adair.ca/Robertson/Robertson.html

    Duncan's son, Robert became second Lord of Struan about 1355. Through his second marriage, he acquired the lands of Stermont. However, his first marriage to the daughter of Sir John Sterling of Glenesk created some friction due to shared inheritance of the lands of Glenesk in Angus with her sister who married Sir Alexander Lindsay. The Lindsays had a son, Sir David Lindsay.

    The Lindsays were very powerful, owning 2/3 of Angus County and were overlords of the highland district of Strathnairn. The division of land to the two sisters may have annoyed our chief.

    Sir David Lindsay expected trouble from his aunt's family, and quite rightly so as it turned out. He arranged a meeting with Robert to discuss the matter. Robert did not attend. Sir David Lindsay sent a scout to find out what was going on. The scout never returned. Robert did not attend the meeting, instead secretly met with Sir Duncan Stewart who was backed by his men and the Roses from Strathnairn.

    Robert had 3 younger half brothers, through their father's second marriage. They were Patrick of Lude, Thomas of Strowan and Gibbon. These brothers led a small army of our clansmen and secretly joined with Sir Duncan Stewart and his men to form an army of over 300 in 1392. They marched into Angus to the east and killed many Lindsays and their Ogilvies allies and their homes were burnt. Three thousand head of Angus cattle were stolen and driven to Rannoch.

    The surviving enemy regrouped and caught up with our clan near Blairgowrie. At the battle of Glasclune, the Angus men were defeated, but we suffered heavy losses. The cattle were driven along the valley of Strathardle to our clan territory.

    Still the enemy was not content to let it stand. Sir Walter Ogilvie, hereditary Sheriff of Angus, got it in his head that our clan's action was on shaky legal ground. He and his possy joined the retreating Angus men previously defeated and caught up with our men at Glenbrierachan in western Strathardle, six miles northeast of Pitlochry. Sixty mounted knights and sundry others comprised the enemy.

    This steel armour and long lances were matched against our array of weapons:

    Claymore - large broadsword, sharp on both edges
    Targe - small, light shield which sacrifices defense to make offence easier
    Dirk - dagger that can be used while the enemy fends off your claymore
    We sent the Angus cattle ahead and positioned ourselves on rough ground, difficult for the enemy horses. Thus a charge by the knights with lances lowered would be difficult.

    The battle did not last long. Sir David Lindsay had pinned one of our men to the ground. Our clansman pulled himself up using Sir David's own lance and using his claymore, penetrated Sir David's stirrup and armour steel boot to nearly sever Sir David's foot off, having cut through to the bone. Unfortunately, our brave clansman died later of his wounds.

    In the quick defeat of the enemy and their subsequent panic, Sir Walter Ogilvie (the now late sheriff), his brother, nearly a dozen knights and about 60 others were killed by our clan. After so much harassment over this simple cattle transaction, our clan realized that


    Family/Spouse: Isabel RAMSAY. Isabel (daughter of Malcolm RAMSAY and Lady Agathe OGILVY) was born in 1350 in Auchterhouse, Angus, Scotland; died in 1403 in Auchterhouse, Angus, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 12. Sir Knight Walter OGILVY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1369 in Lintrathen, Angusshire, Scotland; died in 1440 in Lintrathen, Forfarshire, Scotland.
    2. 13. Margaret OGILVY, Countess of Moray  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1372 in <, , Morayshire, Scotland>; died in 1422 in Moray, Scotland, United Kingdom.
    3. 14. Alexander OGILVY, of Auchterhouse Earl of Airlie  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1373; died on 24 Jul 1421 in Auchterhouse, Forfarshire, Scotland; was buried in Kinkell Church, Inverurie, Aberdeen, Scotland.
    4. 15. Sir John OGILVIE, 1st of Inverquharity  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1375 in Castle Auchterhouse, Angus-shire, Scotland; died on 13 Mar 1421 in Arbuthnott, Kincardineshire, Scotland.
    5. 16. Andrew OGILVY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1378 in Castle Auchterhouse, Angus-shire, Scotland; and died.
    6. 17. Isabel OGILVY, of Auchterhouse, latterly of Bedingfield  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1378 in Bedingfield, Suffolk, England; died in 1406 in Bedingfield, Suffolk, England; was buried in Bedingfield, Suffolk, England.
    7. 18. Lord Alexander OGILVY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1385 in Auchterhouse, Angus, Scotland, United Kingdom; died in 1461.

  2. 9.  Patrick OGILVY OR OGILVIEPatrick OGILVY OR OGILVIE Descendancy chart to this point (5.Walter3, 2.Marjory2, 1.Robert1) was born about 1349 in Europe; and died.

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    • FamilySearch ID: G4N3-F36


  3. 10.  Isabel RAMSAYIsabel RAMSAY Descendancy chart to this point (6.Agathe3, 2.Marjory2, 1.Robert1) was born in 1350 in Auchterhouse, Angus, Scotland; died in 1403 in Auchterhouse, Angus, Scotland.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: LYSD-W21
    • TitleOfNobility: ; Countess of Angus

    Family/Spouse: Walter OGILVY. Walter (son of Walter OGILVIE and Christina KEITH) was born in 1347 in Auchterhouse, Angus, Scotland; died in 1391 in Glscune, Angus, Scotland; was buried in 1392 in Moulin, Perthshire, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 12. Sir Knight Walter OGILVY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1369 in Lintrathen, Angusshire, Scotland; died in 1440 in Lintrathen, Forfarshire, Scotland.
    2. 13. Margaret OGILVY, Countess of Moray  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1372 in <, , Morayshire, Scotland>; died in 1422 in Moray, Scotland, United Kingdom.
    3. 14. Alexander OGILVY, of Auchterhouse Earl of Airlie  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1373; died on 24 Jul 1421 in Auchterhouse, Forfarshire, Scotland; was buried in Kinkell Church, Inverurie, Aberdeen, Scotland.
    4. 15. Sir John OGILVIE, 1st of Inverquharity  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1375 in Castle Auchterhouse, Angus-shire, Scotland; died on 13 Mar 1421 in Arbuthnott, Kincardineshire, Scotland.
    5. 16. Andrew OGILVY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1378 in Castle Auchterhouse, Angus-shire, Scotland; and died.
    6. 17. Isabel OGILVY, of Auchterhouse, latterly of Bedingfield  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1378 in Bedingfield, Suffolk, England; died in 1406 in Bedingfield, Suffolk, England; was buried in Bedingfield, Suffolk, England.
    7. 18. Lord Alexander OGILVY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1385 in Auchterhouse, Angus, Scotland, United Kingdom; died in 1461.

  4. 11.  John RAMSAYJohn RAMSAY Descendancy chart to this point (6.Agathe3, 2.Marjory2, 1.Robert1) was born in 1350 in Scotland; died in in Suffolk, England.

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    • FamilySearch ID: LVLB-T9T
  

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