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Simon III De MONTFORT

Simon III De MONTFORT

Male Abt 1135 - 1180  (~ 45 years)

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  1. 1.  Simon III De MONTFORTSimon III De MONTFORT was born about 1135; died on 13 Mar 1180.

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    • _UID: E60554F6CB3E450996419366EDEFCBC2C5B2

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    Cokayne's "Complete Peerage" (Appendix D to v.VII, pp. 715-716). Count of Evreux and Seigneur of Montfort; heir to his brother, Amaury, who d.s.p. in 1140. Being a vassal both of LOUIS VII, KING OF FRANCE (RIN 1530) and HENRY II, KING OF ENGLAND (RIN 761) (as Duke of Normandy), Simon's position was embarrasing when his two suzerains were at war in 1159. He adhered to England, and handed his castles of Rochefort, Montfort, and Epernon to HENRY II, which forced KING LOUIS to make a truce by cutting his communications between Paris, Orleans, and Entampes, In 1173 Simon joined the revolt of the "young king" [HENRY II's eldest son, Henry], but was captured when [BALDWIN VIII (RIN 3165)] COUNT OF FLANDERS took the castle of Aumale. In 1177 he attested the Treaty of Ivry and was with HENRY II at Verneuil.

    Family/Spouse: Maud. Maud and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. Bertrade De MONTFORT  Descendancy chart to this point died on 12 Jul 1189 in Evreux, Eure, Normandy, France.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Bertrade De MONTFORTBertrade De MONTFORT Descendancy chart to this point (1.Simon1) died on 12 Jul 1189 in Evreux, Eure, Normandy, France.

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    • FamilySearch ID: 9SKK-J71
    • _UID: 3339E2B55DC84B9C8F30374E09A9D8F3D0CC

    Bertrade married Hugh Of CYVEILIOG in 1171 in East Chester, England. Hugh (son of Ranulph De GERNON and Maud FITZROBERT) was born in 1147 in Cyveiliog, Wales; died on 30 Jun 1181. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 3. Hawise Of CHESTER  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 11 Sep 1180 in Chester, Chestershire, England; died after 6 Jun 1241 in Chester, Cheshire, England.


Generation: 3

  1. 3.  Hawise Of CHESTERHawise Of CHESTER Descendancy chart to this point (2.Bertrade2, 1.Simon1) was born on 11 Sep 1180 in Chester, Chestershire, England; died after 6 Jun 1241 in Chester, Cheshire, England.

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    • FamilySearch ID: M1GK-Y3Y
    • _UID: ABDA85D937BD4C0883FA529C4DAED794FC1A

    Family/Spouse: Robert De QUINCY. Robert (son of Earl Saher De QUINCY, Of Winchester and Margaret De BEAUMONT) was born about 1188 in Winchester, Hampshire, England; died in Aug 1257; was buried in Hospitallers, Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 4. Margaret De QUINCY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1206 in Winchester, Hampshire, England; died on 30 Mar 1266 in Hampstead, Clerkenwell, London, England; was buried in 1266 in Church of the Hospitallers, Clerkenwell, London, England, United Kingdom.

    Family/Spouse: Sir Warren DE BOSTOCK. Warren was born in 1180 in Macclesfield, Cheshire, England; died in 1206 in Chester, Cheshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 5. William BOSTOCK  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1202 in Henbury Cum Pexall, Macclesfield, Cheshire; and died.
    2. 6. Sir Henry Gilbert DE BOSTOCK  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1205 in Macclesfield, Cheshire, England; died in 1309 in Macclesfield, Cheshire, England.


Generation: 4

  1. 4.  Margaret De QUINCYMargaret De QUINCY Descendancy chart to this point (3.Hawise3, 2.Bertrade2, 1.Simon1) was born in 1206 in Winchester, Hampshire, England; died on 30 Mar 1266 in Hampstead, Clerkenwell, London, England; was buried in 1266 in Church of the Hospitallers, Clerkenwell, London, England, United Kingdom.

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    • Fact: ; Sole Heiress Of Her Father and her Mother
    • FamilySearch ID: 9M2T-DQC
    • TitleOfNobility: ; Countess of Chester
    • Name: Margaret De QUINCY COUNTESS LINCOLN
    • _UID: 31A7B06F2A8E45F3BFEB38F3AC8EB666120B
    • TitleOfNobility: 1222, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England; 2nd Countess of Lincolin
    • TitleOfNobility: 23 Nov 1232; 2nd Countess of Lincoln suo jure
    • TitleOfNobility: Between 1242 and 1252; Countess of Pembroke
    • TitleOfNobility: 1247; Countess of Derby

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    THIS Countess Margaret, Countess Lincoln, de Quincy is the cousin of Countess Margaret, Countess Derby, de Quincy.
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    Margaret de Quincy, suo jure 2nd Countess of Lincoln (c. 1206 ? March 1266) was a wealthy English noblewoman and heiress having inherited in her own right the Earldom of Lincoln and honours of Bolingbroke from her mother Hawise of Chester, received a dower from the estates of her first husband, and acquired a dower third from the extensive earldom of Pembroke following the death of her second husband, Walter Marshal, 5th Earl of Pembroke. Her first husband was John de Lacy, 2nd Earl of Lincoln, by whom she had two children. He was created 2nd Earl of Lincoln by right of his marriage to Margaret. Margaret has been described as "one of the two towering female figures of the mid-13th century".[1]

    Family
    Margaret was born in about 1206, the daughter and only child of Robert de Quincy and Hawise of Chester, herself the co-heiress of her uncle Ranulf de Blondeville, 6th Earl of Chester. Hawise became suo jure Countess of Chester in April 1231 when her brother resigned the title in her favour.

    Her paternal grandfather, Saer de Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester was one of the 25 sureties of the Magna Carta; as a result he was excommunicated by the Church in December 1215. Two years later her father died after having been accidentally poisoned through medicine prepared by a Cistercian monk.[2]

    Life
    On 23 November 1232, Margaret and her husband John de Lacy, Baron of Pontefract were formally invested by King Henry III as Countess and Earl of Lincoln. In April 1231 her maternal uncle Ranulf de Blondeville, 1st Earl of Lincoln had made an inter vivos gift, after receiving dispensation from the crown, of the Earldom of Lincoln to her mother Hawise. Her uncle granted her mother the title by a formal charter under his seal which was confirmed by King Henry III. Her mother was formally invested as suo jure 1st Countess of Lincoln on 27 October 1232 the day after her uncle's death. Likewise her mother Hawise of Chester received permission from King Henry III to grant the Earldom of Lincoln jointly to Margaret and her husband John, and less than a month later a second formal investiture took place, but this time for Margaret and her husband John de Lacy. Margaret became 2nd Countess of Lincoln suo jure (in her own right) and John de Lacy became 2nd Earl of Lincoln by right of his wife. (John de Lacy is mistakenly called the 1st Earl of Lincoln in many references.)

    In 1238, Margaret and her husband paid King Henry the large sum of 5,000 pounds to obtain his agreement to the marriage of their daughter Maud to Richard de Clare, 6th Earl of Hertford, 2nd Earl of Gloucester.

    On 22 July 1240 her first husband John de Lacy died. Although he was nominally succeeded by their only son Edmund de Lacy (c.1227-1258) for titles and lands that included Baron of Pontefract, Baron of Halton, and Constable of Chester, Margaret at first controlled the estates in lieu of her son who was still in his minority and being brought up at the court of Henry III and Eleanor of Provence. In 1243, Margaret inherited the manor of Grantchester on the death of her mother Hawise. [3]

    Edmund was allowed to succeed to his titles and estates at the age of 18. Edmund was also Margaret's heir to the Earldom of Lincoln and also her other extensive estates that included the third of the Earldom of Pembroke that she had inherited from her second husband in 1248. Edmund was never able to become Earl of Lincoln, however, as he predeceased his mother by eight years.

    As the widowed Countess of Lincoln suo jure, Margaret was brought into contact with some of the most important people in the county of Lincolnshire. Among these included Robert Grosseteste, Bishop of Lincoln, the most significant intellectual in England at the time who recognised Margaret's position as Countess of Lincoln to be legitimate and important, and he viewed Margaret as both patron and peer. He dedicated Les Reules Seynt Robert, his treatise on estate and household management, to her.[4]

    Margaret died in 1266, and left her estates to her grandson, Henry de Lacy, Earl of Lincoln.[5]

    Marriages and issue
    Sometime before 21 June 1221, Margaret married as his second wife, her first husband John de Lacy of Pontefract. The purpose of the alliance was to bring the rich Lincoln and Bolingbroke inheritance of her mother to the de Lacy family.[6] John's first marriage to Alice de l'Aigle had not produced issue; although John and Margaret together had two children:

    Maud de Lacy (25 January 1223- 1287/10 March 1289), married in 1238 Richard de Clare, 6th Earl of Hertford, 2nd Earl of Gloucester, by whom she had seven children.
    Edmund de Lacy, Baron of Pontefract (died 2 June 1258), married in 1247 Alasia of Saluzzo, daughter of Manfredo III of Saluzzo, by whom he had three children, including Henry de Lacy, 3rd Earl of Lincoln.
    She married secondly on 6 January 1242, Walter Marshal, 5th Earl of Pembroke, Lord of Striguil, Lord of Leinster, Earl Marshal of England, one of the ten children of William Marshal, 1st Earl of Pembroke and Isabel de Clare, 4th Countess of Pembroke. This marriage, like those of his four brothers, did not produce any children; therefore when he died at Goodrich Castle on 24 November 1245, Margaret inherited a third of the Earldom of Pembroke as well as the properties and lordship of Kildare.

    Her dower third outweighed any of the individual holdings of the 13 different co-heirs of the five Marshal sisters which meant she would end up controlling more of the earldom of Pembroke and lordship of Leinster than any of the other co-heirs; this brought her into direct conflict with her own daughter, Maud, whose husband was by virtue of his mother Isabel Marshal one of the co-heirs of the Pembroke earldom.[7] As a result of her quarrels with her daughter, Margaret preferred her grandson Henry de Lacy who would become the 3rd Earl of Lincoln on reaching majority (21) in 1272. She and her Italian daughter-in-law Alasia of Saluzzo shared in the wardship of Henry who was Margaret's heir, and the relationship between the two women appeared to have been cordial.[8]

    Death and legacy
    Margaret was a careful overseer of her property and tenants, and gracious in her dealings with her son's children, neighbours and tenants.[9] She received two papal dispensations in 1251, the first to erect a portable altar; the other so that she could hear mass in the Cistercian monastery.[10] Margaret died in March 1266[11][12] at Hampstead. Her death was recorded in the Annals of Worcester and in the Annals of Winchester.[11] She was buried in the Church of the Hospitallers in Clerkenwell.[11]

    Margaret was described as "one of the two towering female figures of the mid-13th century"; the other being Ela, Countess of Salisbury.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_de_Quincy,_Countess_of_Lincoln


    Margaret married John De LACY in 1221. John (son of Lord Roger De LACY and Maud De CLERE) was born in 1192 in Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England; died on 22 Jul 1240 in Stanlow Abbey, Cheshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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    1. 7. Maud De LACY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1223 in Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England; died before 10 Mar 1288.
    2. 8. Alice DE LACY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1225 in Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England; and died.
    3. 9. Idonea De LACY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1226 in Lincolnshire, England; and died.
    4. 10. Edmund DE LACY, Baron of Pontefract  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1230 in Halton, Cheshire, England; died between 21 Jul 1257 and 2 Jun 1258 in Stanlow, Cheshire, England; was buried in Jun 1258 in Stanlow Abbey, Stanlow, Cheshire, England.

  2. 5.  William BOSTOCKWilliam BOSTOCK Descendancy chart to this point (3.Hawise3, 2.Bertrade2, 1.Simon1) was born about 1202 in Henbury Cum Pexall, Macclesfield, Cheshire; and died.

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    • FamilySearch ID: G8T7-NK2


  3. 6.  Sir Henry Gilbert DE BOSTOCKSir Henry Gilbert DE BOSTOCK Descendancy chart to this point (3.Hawise3, 2.Bertrade2, 1.Simon1) was born in 1205 in Macclesfield, Cheshire, England; died in 1309 in Macclesfield, Cheshire, England.

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    • FamilySearch ID: GDZC-TSL