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Abt 305 - Abt 367 (~ 62 years)
Generation: 1
1. | Conan Meriadog King Of DUMNONIA & BRITTANY was born about 305 in Celtic tribes of Dumnonii; died about 367. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: GJJG-FRQ
- Name: Conan Meriadog King Of BRITTANY & DOMNONIA
- Name: Cynan Meiriadog Ap Caradoc
- _UID: 9E09040F33264501913B419539EB5514881A
- Alt. Birth: Abt 310; Alt. Birth
- Alt. Death: Abt 421; Alt. Death
Notes:
Father of 8 Saints
Conan Meriadoc,
'King' of Dumnonia & Brittany
(Born c.AD 305)
(Welsh: Cynan; Latin: Conanus; English: Conan)
Conan was the son of Octavius the Old's brother, Gerontius, (or Octavius himself according to the Dream of Macsen Wledig). He had expected to inherit his uncle's position of influence in what is now Wales, until his cousin, Helena, married the Roman citizen, Magnus Maximus. Originally, Conan was considerably put out by this man's rise to power and he organised a rebellion against him, aided by Picts & Scots. However, being defeated, Conan became great friends with his rival and travelled with Maximus to the continent to help him become Emperor of the West. He was given control over Armorica (modern Brittany) as a reward for killing the previous holder of the title. His new province, was well settled by his men-at-arms, however they lacked wives. Therefore, in order to populate the area, he sent to his uncle's old ally, Donaut of Dumnonia for numerous Cornish ladies. Conan proposed to cement the alliance of their two peoples by marrying Donaut's daughter, Ursula. Though Donaut was delighted at the match, Ursula had her heart set on a life devoted only to God. She agreed to the marriage, on the condition that she first be allowed to go on a pilgrimage throughout Europe. Conan appears to have joined her in Rome, where the two must have been married, probably by Pope Cyriacus himself. He apparently did not travel to Cologne where Ursula died. In later years, he gained considerable influence in Dumnonia after the death of his father-in-law. The Governorship of Armorica & Dumnonia was united for only a short time. As his second wife, Conan married Dareca of Ireland, a supposed, though unlikely, sister of St. Patrick. Upon Conan's death, around AD 395, control of each region fell to the sons of his two marriages, Gadeon and Gradlon.
Source: lorenfamily.com
Relationship (J,M&L):
48th Great-grandparent
Titled:
King of Brittany
Titled:
King of Dumnonia
Family/Spouse: Dareca Verch Calpurnius Of IRELAND. Dareca was born about 310; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Family/Spouse: Ursula (St.) Verch Dynod Princess Of DUMNONIA. Ursula was born after 305 in Donaut, Dumnonia; died before 329. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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Generation: 2
3. | Cadfan "The Great" Ap Cynan King Of DUMNONIA (1.Conan1) was born about 325 in Celtic tribes of Dumnonii; and died. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: GJNW-6S3
- Name: Cadfan Ap Cynan King Of DUMNONIA
- Name: Gadeon Ap Cynon Eudaf King Of DUMNONIA
- Name: The Great
- _UID: 710977F18A214BE584DD9A303723C1E6E998
- Alt. Birth: Abt 330; Alt. Birth
Notes:
Source: lorenfamily.com
Titled:
King of Dumnonia
Family/Spouse: Gwladys. Gwladys was born about 330 in Celtic tribes of Dumnonii; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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Generation: 3
Generation: 4
13. | Gwawl Verch Coel Of BRITAIN (7.Ystrafael3, 3.Cadfan2, 1.Conan1) was born about 386 in Wales, England; and died. Other Events:
- AFN: MQR7-H3
- FamilySearch ID: GJNW-V1V
- Name: Gwawl Verch COEL
- _UID: 5894A5ABB8CC4578A79983A7E75AB0EAC2DF
Notes:
Source: lorenfamily.com
Gwawl married Cunedda "Wledig" Ap Edern King Of GWYNEDD in , North Wales. Cunedda (son of Edern (Aeturnus) Ap Padern PADARN and Princess Of DUMNONIA & BRITTANY) was born about 385 in Manau Gododdin (Clackmannan, Scotland); died in in Gwynedd, Caernarvonshire, Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 23. Tybion Ap CUNEDDA
was born about 408 in Of, Meirionydd, Merionethshire, Wales; and died.
- 24. Edern Ap CUNEDDA
was born about 410 in Of, Edeirnion, Merionethshire, Wales; and died.
- 25. Rhufon Ap CUNEDDA
was born about 411 in Of, Rhufoniog, Denbighshire, Wales; and died.
- 26. Ceredig Ap Cunedda Prince Of GWYNEDD
was born about 413 in Gwynedd, Caernarvonshire, Wales; died in in Ceredigion, Cymru (Wales).
- 27. Afloeg Ap CUNEDDA
was born about 414 in Of Cafflogion, Llyn, Caernarvonshire, Wales; and died.
- 28. Ysfael Ap CUNEDDA
was born about 416 in Wales, England; and died.
- 29. Einion "The Impetuous" King Of GWYNEDD
was born about 419 in North Wales; and died.
- 30. Dunog Ap CUNEDDA
was born about 419 in Of, Dunoding, Wales; and died.
- 31. Tegid (Tegeingl) Verch CUNEDDA
was born about 420 in Wales, England; and died.
- 32. Dogfael Ap CUNEDDA
was born about 422 in Of Dogfeiling, Dyffryn Clwyd, Denbighshire, Wales; and died.
- 33. Gwen Verch Cunedda
was born about 430; and died.
- 34. Ysfael Gwron "Hero" Ap Cunedda King YNYS MON
was born about 431 in Votadini, North Britain; died in in Ynys Mon (Anglesey), Cymru (Wales).
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Gwawl married in , North Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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14. | Helena Of BRITAIN (7.Ystrafael3, 3.Cadfan2, 1.Conan1) was born about 388; and died. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: GJNW-9K3
- _UID: F62D328F93C44EC6B7ED5AABAC3A337E8F3C
Notes:
Source: lorenfamily.com
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16. | Aeternus (Edern) (8.Princess3, 4.Princess2, 1.Conan1) was born about 384 in Wales, England; and died. Other Events:
- AFN: HPGD-GG
- Name: Edern Ap Padern
- _UID: AE9BBC43D0E4421D8CEEAA0FA055FCDF5E48
Notes:
Source: lorenfamily.com
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17. | Cunedda "Wledig" Ap Edern King Of GWYNEDD (8.Princess3, 4.Princess2, 1.Conan1) was born about 385 in Manau Gododdin (Clackmannan, Scotland); died in in Gwynedd, Caernarvonshire, Wales. Other Events:
- AFN: HPGD-CX
- FamilySearch ID: GJJL-RNW
- Name: Cunedda "Wledig" Ap EDERN
- Name: Cunedda "Wledig" King Ap Edern Of GWYNEDD
- Name: Cunetacius (Kenneth) King Of GWYNEDD
- Name: Wledig
- _UID: 335473EEE912467C928DA36D1D17EDF1E628
Notes:
Cunedda Wledig, King of North Wales
(Born c.AD 380)
(Latin: Cunetacius; English: Kenneth)
Cunedda or Cunedag Wledig (the Imperator) was a northern British chieftain, a sub-King of Gododdin who ruled Manau Gododdin on the Firth of Forth around Clackmannan. Not much is known about his life in the North, though an ancient poem generally known as the Marwnad Cunedda records his wars against the kingdoms of Coel Hen and his descendants, when "the forts will tremble.....in Caer Weir [supposedly Durham] and Caer Liwelydd [Carlisle]". Cunedda's paternal ancestors bore Roman names for three generations, including Paternus of the Red Robe, a name which has brought suggestions that the family ruled North of Hadrian's Wall in some sort of official Roman capacity. His maternal grandmother was supposedly the grandaughter of Conan Meriadoc, male heir of the legendary Welsh King, Eudaf Hen. He was therefore chosen by the northern Welsh to help them in their fight against the invading Irish. Nennius reports:
Maelgwn, the great king, was reigning among the Britons in the region of Gwynedd, for his ancester Cunedag, with his sons, whose number was eight, had come previously from the northern part, that is from the region which is called Manau Gododdin, one hundred and forty-six years before Maelgwn reigned. And with great slaughter they drove out from those regions the Scotti who never returned again to inhabit them.
The Harleian MS 3859 further tells us:
These are the names of the sons of Cunedda, whose number was nine: Tybion, the first-born, who died in the region called Manau Gododdin and did not come hither with his father and his aforesaid brothers. Meirion, his son, divided the possessions among his [Tybion's] brothers. 2. Ysfael, 3. Rhufon, 4. Dunod, 5. Ceredig, 6. Afloeg, 7. Einion Yrth, 8. Dogfael, 9. Edern. This is their boundary: from the river which is called Dyfrdwy [the Dee] , to another river, the Teifi; and they held very many districts in the western part of Britain.
Other sons, generally considered more legendary, may have included Gwron, Mael, Coel and Arwystl. Daughters were Tegeingl and Gwen, the wife of Amlawdd Wledig.
It seems clear therefore that Cunedda and his warbands rode clean across Britain to assist their Western cousins. Soon only Llyn, Arfon, Arllechwedd and the majority of Anglesey remained in Irish hands. Cunedda also took raiding parties further south and expelled the Ui Liathain from Gwyr, Cedweli and parts of Dyfed. He finally settled down in Rhos which was the original heartland of Gwynedd. His family founded a number of Royal dynasties in the regions now named after his many sons: Meirionydd, Ysfeilion, Rhufoniog, Dunoding, Ceredigion, Afflogion, Dogfeiling and Edeyrnion.
The main question in Cunedda's life concerns the date of these events. PC Bartrum suggests a timeframe no earlier than AD 370 and no later than AD 430. The latter date appears to conform to the general consensus of opinion, though a little later is possible. Perhaps the western migration of Cunedda and his men was part of the distinct policy of a High-King like Vortigern Vorteneu. The figure of one hundred and forty-six years before King Maelgwn Gwynedd's reign, on the other hand, might suggest a period around the 380s. A Roman mercenary movement following Magnus Maximus' troop withdrawal has been suggested, though indications of his son's rule in the area would contradict this possibility.
Cunedda Wledig's Ancestry
Cunedda Wledig (the Imperator) was a powerful warrior prince from the North of Britain. He hailed from Manau Gododdin - the area around Clackmannan in modern Scotland - and may have been the ruling sub-king, under the Kings of Greater Gododdin. Around AD 430 or a little later, his family was invited - possibly by the remnants of Roman Officialdom - to rid North Wales of invading Irish pirates. Cunedda and his sons eagerly obliged and thus established a range of monarchies in the region which actually originated amongst the Men of the North.
His pedigree appears in the Jesus College MS 20 and other early Welsh genealogical tracts thus:
However, the earlier pedigree in the Harleian MS 3859 gives a more accurate picture:
The older pedigree shows that a number of the generations given in the later ancestries are, in fact, duplications. Three of them simply add the prefix 'Guor-' on to each name and it has been suggested that this was part of some sort of bardic chant which helped people remember the names.
Cunedda, like many of his contemporaries, claimed descent from the Celtic gods, Beli and Afallach. Yet, his immediate ancestors had extremely Roman names: Aeternus, Paternus & Tacitus. They were probably leaders of the Votadini tribe. They were on excellent terms with the Roman administration south of Hadrian's Wall and may have formed part of a pro-Roman borderland buffer zone after the irruptions of AD 367/9. Paternus' Red-Robe may even suggest the official purple garb of the Roman Administration. The family continued thus:
Cunedda Wledig (the Imperator), King of Manau Gododdin & Gwynedd
m. Gwawl ferch Coel Hen
Tybion, abt 417 -
Ysfael Gwron, abt 418 -
Rhufon, abt 419 -
Dunod, abt 420 -
Ceredig Ceredigion, abt 421 -
Afloeg, abt 422 -
Einion Yrth, abt 423 -
Dogfael, abt 424 -
Edern, abt 425 -
Tegeingl, abt 426 -
Gwen, abt 427 - , m. Amlawdd Wledig (the Imperator)
ore unreliable sources give three further sons:
Mael, abt 428 -
Coel, abt 429 -
Arwystl, abt 430 -
Early British Kingdoms
David Nash Ford
Source: lorenfamily.com
Titled:
King of Votadini (North Britain)
Titled:
King of North Wales
Titled:
Wledig - "The Imperator"
Cunedda married Gwawl Verch Coel Of BRITAIN in , North Wales. Gwawl (daughter of Coel Hen Godebog King Of North BRITAIN and Ystrafael Verch Cadfan Of DUMNONIA) was born about 386 in Wales, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 23. Tybion Ap CUNEDDA
was born about 408 in Of, Meirionydd, Merionethshire, Wales; and died.
- 24. Edern Ap CUNEDDA
was born about 410 in Of, Edeirnion, Merionethshire, Wales; and died.
- 25. Rhufon Ap CUNEDDA
was born about 411 in Of, Rhufoniog, Denbighshire, Wales; and died.
- 26. Ceredig Ap Cunedda Prince Of GWYNEDD
was born about 413 in Gwynedd, Caernarvonshire, Wales; died in in Ceredigion, Cymru (Wales).
- 27. Afloeg Ap CUNEDDA
was born about 414 in Of Cafflogion, Llyn, Caernarvonshire, Wales; and died.
- 28. Ysfael Ap CUNEDDA
was born about 416 in Wales, England; and died.
- 29. Einion "The Impetuous" King Of GWYNEDD
was born about 419 in North Wales; and died.
- 30. Dunog Ap CUNEDDA
was born about 419 in Of, Dunoding, Wales; and died.
- 31. Tegid (Tegeingl) Verch CUNEDDA
was born about 420 in Wales, England; and died.
- 32. Dogfael Ap CUNEDDA
was born about 422 in Of Dogfeiling, Dyffryn Clwyd, Denbighshire, Wales; and died.
- 33. Gwen Verch Cunedda
was born about 430; and died.
- 34. Ysfael Gwron "Hero" Ap Cunedda King YNYS MON
was born about 431 in Votadini, North Britain; died in in Ynys Mon (Anglesey), Cymru (Wales).
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