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 Abt 385 -
Generation: 1
| 1. |  Cunedda "Wledig" Ap Edern King Of GWYNEDD was born about 385 in Manau Gododdin (Clackmannan, Scotland); died in in Gwynedd, Caernarvonshire, Wales. Other Events:
- AFN: HPGD-CX
- FamilySearch ID: GJJL-RNW
- Name: Cunedda "Wledig" Ap EDERN
- Name: Cunedda "Wledig" King Ap Edern Of GWYNEDD
- Name: Cunetacius (Kenneth) King Of GWYNEDD
- Name: Wledig
- _UID: 335473EEE912467C928DA36D1D17EDF1E628
Notes:
Cunedda Wledig, King of North Wales
(Born c.AD 380)
(Latin: Cunetacius; English: Kenneth)
Cunedda or Cunedag Wledig (the Imperator) was a northern British chieftain, a sub-King of Gododdin who ruled Manau Gododdin on the Firth of Forth around Clackmannan. Not much is known about his life in the North, though an ancient poem generally known as the Marwnad Cunedda records his wars against the kingdoms of Coel Hen and his descendants, when "the forts will tremble.....in Caer Weir [supposedly Durham] and Caer Liwelydd [Carlisle]". Cunedda's paternal ancestors bore Roman names for three generations, including Paternus of the Red Robe, a name which has brought suggestions that the family ruled North of Hadrian's Wall in some sort of official Roman capacity. His maternal grandmother was supposedly the grandaughter of Conan Meriadoc, male heir of the legendary Welsh King, Eudaf Hen. He was therefore chosen by the northern Welsh to help them in their fight against the invading Irish. Nennius reports:
Maelgwn, the great king, was reigning among the Britons in the region of Gwynedd, for his ancester Cunedag, with his sons, whose number was eight, had come previously from the northern part, that is from the region which is called Manau Gododdin, one hundred and forty-six years before Maelgwn reigned. And with great slaughter they drove out from those regions the Scotti who never returned again to inhabit them.
The Harleian MS 3859 further tells us:
These are the names of the sons of Cunedda, whose number was nine: Tybion, the first-born, who died in the region called Manau Gododdin and did not come hither with his father and his aforesaid brothers. Meirion, his son, divided the possessions among his [Tybion's] brothers. 2. Ysfael, 3. Rhufon, 4. Dunod, 5. Ceredig, 6. Afloeg, 7. Einion Yrth, 8. Dogfael, 9. Edern. This is their boundary: from the river which is called Dyfrdwy [the Dee] , to another river, the Teifi; and they held very many districts in the western part of Britain.
Other sons, generally considered more legendary, may have included Gwron, Mael, Coel and Arwystl. Daughters were Tegeingl and Gwen, the wife of Amlawdd Wledig.
It seems clear therefore that Cunedda and his warbands rode clean across Britain to assist their Western cousins. Soon only Llyn, Arfon, Arllechwedd and the majority of Anglesey remained in Irish hands. Cunedda also took raiding parties further south and expelled the Ui Liathain from Gwyr, Cedweli and parts of Dyfed. He finally settled down in Rhos which was the original heartland of Gwynedd. His family founded a number of Royal dynasties in the regions now named after his many sons: Meirionydd, Ysfeilion, Rhufoniog, Dunoding, Ceredigion, Afflogion, Dogfeiling and Edeyrnion.
The main question in Cunedda's life concerns the date of these events. PC Bartrum suggests a timeframe no earlier than AD 370 and no later than AD 430. The latter date appears to conform to the general consensus of opinion, though a little later is possible. Perhaps the western migration of Cunedda and his men was part of the distinct policy of a High-King like Vortigern Vorteneu. The figure of one hundred and forty-six years before King Maelgwn Gwynedd's reign, on the other hand, might suggest a period around the 380s. A Roman mercenary movement following Magnus Maximus' troop withdrawal has been suggested, though indications of his son's rule in the area would contradict this possibility.
Cunedda Wledig's Ancestry
Cunedda Wledig (the Imperator) was a powerful warrior prince from the North of Britain. He hailed from Manau Gododdin - the area around Clackmannan in modern Scotland - and may have been the ruling sub-king, under the Kings of Greater Gododdin. Around AD 430 or a little later, his family was invited - possibly by the remnants of Roman Officialdom - to rid North Wales of invading Irish pirates. Cunedda and his sons eagerly obliged and thus established a range of monarchies in the region which actually originated amongst the Men of the North.
His pedigree appears in the Jesus College MS 20 and other early Welsh genealogical tracts thus:
However, the earlier pedigree in the Harleian MS 3859 gives a more accurate picture:
The older pedigree shows that a number of the generations given in the later ancestries are, in fact, duplications. Three of them simply add the prefix 'Guor-' on to each name and it has been suggested that this was part of some sort of bardic chant which helped people remember the names.
Cunedda, like many of his contemporaries, claimed descent from the Celtic gods, Beli and Afallach. Yet, his immediate ancestors had extremely Roman names: Aeternus, Paternus & Tacitus. They were probably leaders of the Votadini tribe. They were on excellent terms with the Roman administration south of Hadrian's Wall and may have formed part of a pro-Roman borderland buffer zone after the irruptions of AD 367/9. Paternus' Red-Robe may even suggest the official purple garb of the Roman Administration. The family continued thus:
Cunedda Wledig (the Imperator), King of Manau Gododdin & Gwynedd
m. Gwawl ferch Coel Hen
Tybion, abt 417 -
Ysfael Gwron, abt 418 -
Rhufon, abt 419 -
Dunod, abt 420 -
Ceredig Ceredigion, abt 421 -
Afloeg, abt 422 -
Einion Yrth, abt 423 -
Dogfael, abt 424 -
Edern, abt 425 -
Tegeingl, abt 426 -
Gwen, abt 427 - , m. Amlawdd Wledig (the Imperator)
ore unreliable sources give three further sons:
Mael, abt 428 -
Coel, abt 429 -
Arwystl, abt 430 -
Early British Kingdoms
David Nash Ford
Source: lorenfamily.com
Titled:
King of Votadini (North Britain)
Titled:
King of North Wales
Titled:
Wledig - "The Imperator"
Cunedda married Gwawl Verch Coel Of BRITAIN in , North Wales. Gwawl (daughter of Coel Hen Godebog King Of North BRITAIN and Ystrafael Verch Cadfan Of DUMNONIA) was born about 386 in Wales, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 2. Tybion Ap CUNEDDA
 was born about 408 in Of, Meirionydd, Merionethshire, Wales; and died.
- 3. Edern Ap CUNEDDA was born about 410 in Of, Edeirnion, Merionethshire, Wales; and died.
- 4. Rhufon Ap CUNEDDA was born about 411 in Of, Rhufoniog, Denbighshire, Wales; and died.
- 5. Ceredig Ap Cunedda Prince Of GWYNEDD was born about 413 in Gwynedd, Caernarvonshire, Wales; died in in Ceredigion, Cymru (Wales).
- 6. Afloeg Ap CUNEDDA was born about 414 in Of Cafflogion, Llyn, Caernarvonshire, Wales; and died.
- 7. Ysfael Ap CUNEDDA was born about 416 in Wales, England; and died.
- 8. Einion "The Impetuous" King Of GWYNEDD was born about 419 in North Wales; and died.
- 9. Dunog Ap CUNEDDA was born about 419 in Of, Dunoding, Wales; and died.
- 10. Tegid (Tegeingl) Verch CUNEDDA was born about 420 in Wales, England; and died.
- 11. Dogfael Ap CUNEDDA was born about 422 in Of Dogfeiling, Dyffryn Clwyd, Denbighshire, Wales; and died.
- 12. Gwen Verch Cunedda was born about 430; and died.
- 13. Ysfael Gwron "Hero" Ap Cunedda King YNYS MON was born about 431 in Votadini, North Britain; died in in Ynys Mon (Anglesey), Cymru (Wales).
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Generation: 2
| 2. | Tybion Ap CUNEDDA (1.Cunedda1) was born about 408 in Of, Meirionydd, Merionethshire, Wales; and died. Other Events:
- AFN: MQQH-Q9
- _UID: 0C3DBD4E57FF481AB151D4AEC7D82D197596
Notes:
Source: lorenfamily.com
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| 3. | Edern Ap CUNEDDA (1.Cunedda1) was born about 410 in Of, Edeirnion, Merionethshire, Wales; and died. Other Events:
- AFN: MQQH-RG
- _UID: 7A4D993806C34121AD9F2A6DDDBDBD5E5B16
Notes:
Source: lorenfamily.com
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| 4. | Rhufon Ap CUNEDDA (1.Cunedda1) was born about 411 in Of, Rhufoniog, Denbighshire, Wales; and died. Other Events:
- AFN: MQQH-SM
- _UID: D0CE120AC0FB4F7AAB57B5D8007FB61D1FEE
Notes:
Source: lorenfamily.com
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| 5. | Ceredig Ap Cunedda Prince Of GWYNEDD (1.Cunedda1) was born about 413 in Gwynedd, Caernarvonshire, Wales; died in in Ceredigion, Cymru (Wales). Other Events:
- AFN: MQQH-TS
- Name: Ceredig Ap CUNEDDA
- _UID: 913D86BD734C4ED1A111D9D4F4F3E6445F0F
Notes:
Source: lorenfamily.com
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| 6. | Afloeg Ap CUNEDDA (1.Cunedda1) was born about 414 in Of Cafflogion, Llyn, Caernarvonshire, Wales; and died. Other Events:
- AFN: MQQH-V0
- _UID: C779212127F24D808118CD70E29D67FD2196
Notes:
Source: lorenfamily.com
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| 7. | Ysfael Ap CUNEDDA (1.Cunedda1) was born about 416 in Wales, England; and died. Other Events:
- AFN: QL4T-DW
- _UID: 8E06BF9E19F84A18AE0CB78896A433723C14
Notes:
Source: lorenfamily.com
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| 8. | Einion "The Impetuous" King Of GWYNEDD (1.Cunedda1) was born about 419 in North Wales; and died. Other Events:
- AFN: HPGD-F9
- Name: Einion "Yrth" Ap CUNEDDA
- Name: The Impetuous
- _UID: 2D50E7AF2D294BB9BD647CA64806F16D5C9E
- Alt. Birth: Abt 417; Alt. Birth
Notes:
Source: lorenfamily.com
Titled:
King of Gwynedd
Titled:
"Yrth" - The Impetuous
Alt. Birth:
North Wales
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| 9. | Dunog Ap CUNEDDA (1.Cunedda1) was born about 419 in Of, Dunoding, Wales; and died. Other Events:
- AFN: MQQJ-20
- _UID: 7D44CDCAF68747D38874104738E5BAB8D1B4
Notes:
Source: lorenfamily.com
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| 10. |  Tegid (Tegeingl) Verch CUNEDDA (1.Cunedda1) was born about 420 in Wales, England; and died. Other Events:
- AFN: MQQJ-1S
- _UID: F43ECD0D068C43DF9F45A4283FAF6239F903
Notes:
Source: lorenfamily.com
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| 11. | Dogfael Ap CUNEDDA (1.Cunedda1) was born about 422 in Of Dogfeiling, Dyffryn Clwyd, Denbighshire, Wales; and died. Other Events:
- AFN: MQQJ-0M
- _UID: 8E541D337C41465097FA757BDCDB0B10D8FA
Notes:
Source: lorenfamily.com
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| 13. | Ysfael Gwron "Hero" Ap Cunedda King YNYS MON (1.Cunedda1) was born about 431 in Votadini, North Britain; died in in Ynys Mon (Anglesey), Cymru (Wales). Other Events:
- Name: Gwron Ap Cunedda Of North BRITAIN
- Name: Hero
- Name: Ismaglus (Osbald) King Of YSFEILION
- _UID: 830E5D750BA745419A4DC75FA05C7688A22D
Notes:
Ysfael Gwron, King of Ysfeilion
(Born. c.AD 430)
(Latin: Ismaglus; English: Osbald)
Ysfael was one of the many sons of Cunedda Wledig, amongst whom his kingdom was eventually divided. He inherited the only portion of Ynys Mon (Anglesey) conquered by Cunedda's family, the eastern horn around Beaumaris. The name of his kingdom was long retained in Maes Osmeliaun, now known as Llanfaes. It was a dangerous border region, for the Irish controlled the rest of the Island; but Ysfael appears to have upheld the British foothold with some success. It was suggested by Owen Rhoscomyl that he should probably be identified with Cunedda's son, Gwron - an epithet meaning 'Hero'. He only appears in late lists of Cunedda's sons, and his own sons, Meilir Meilirion, Cynyr and Yneigr, were certainly active on Ynys Mon (Anglesey).
Source: lorenfamily.com
Titled:
King of Ysfeilion (Ynys Mon), now Anglesey, Wales
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