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Ermentrude (Irmtrud) De ORL?ANS, Countess Of Orleans

Ermentrude (Irmtrud) De ORL?ANS, Countess Of Orleans

Female 830 - 869  (39 years)

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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Ermentrude (Irmtrud) De ORL?ANS, Countess Of OrleansErmentrude (Irmtrud) De ORL?ANS, Countess Of Orleans was born on 27 Sep 830 in Orl?ans, Loiret, France; died on 6 Oct 869 in Aude, Languedoc-Roussillon, France.

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    • Occupation: Countess of Orleans
    • _UID: BCC6587272104CDABF8EC5C718502DC52768

    Notes:

    Countess of Orleans

    Ermentrude married Emperor Charles II "The Bald", Holy Roman Empire on 13 Dec 842 in Crecy, France. Charles (son of Louis I "The Pious" Lothair Of DE AQUITAINE, Holy Roman Emperor and Empress Judith The Fair Of BAVARIA, Princess Of Bavaria) was born on 13 Jun 823 in Frankfurt, Hessen-Nassau, Prussia; died on 6 Oct 877 in Brides Les Bains, Bourgogne; was buried in St. Denis, Paris, Seine, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. King Louis II "The Stammerer" Of FRANCE  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 1 Nov 843 in France; died on 10 Nov 879 in Compi?gne, Braines, France.
    2. 3. Princess Judith Of The FRANKS  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 844 in France; died about 875.
    3. 4. King Charles Of AQUITANE  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 847; died on 29 Sep 865 in Buzanpcais, France.
    4. 5. Hersent, Duchess Of Lorraine  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 865 in Lorraine, France; and died.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  King Louis II "The Stammerer" Of FRANCEKing Louis II "The Stammerer" Of FRANCE Descendancy chart to this point (1.Ermentrude1) was born on 1 Nov 843 in France; died on 10 Nov 879 in Compi?gne, Braines, France.

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    • Name: The Stammerer
    • _UID: 9647C7C20B8E452E9DE284FEAAF4C1BC8E19

    Louis married Adaelaeide (Adbelahide), Queen Of France in 875. Adaelaeide was born about 858 in Of Paris, Seine, France; died about 18 Oct 900. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 6. Ermentrud Of Westfranken  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 875; and died.
    2. 7. Charles III "The Simple", King Of France  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 17 Sep 879 in France; died on 7 Oct 929 in Paeronne, Austrasia.

  2. 3.  Princess Judith Of The FRANKSPrincess Judith Of The FRANKS Descendancy chart to this point (1.Ermentrude1) was born in 844 in France; died about 875.

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    • _UID: 6925D62609E7445DBBCEBEDAF389B6D03E76

    Family/Spouse: Count Baldwin I "Iron Hand" DE FLANDERS. Baldwin (son of Count Odacre (Audacer-Odoscer), Of Flanders Baldwin) was born in 837; died in 879 in Arras; was buried in Abbaye de Saint-Bertin near Saint-Omer. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 8. Guinidilda DE FLANDERS  Descendancy chart to this point and died.
    2. 9. Baudouin II "The Bald", Count Of Flanders  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 863; died on 10 Sep 918.
    3. 10. Count Rudolph (Raoul) Of CAMBREY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 867 in Flanders, Nord, France; died on 17 Jun 896.

  3. 4.  King Charles Of AQUITANEKing Charles Of AQUITANE Descendancy chart to this point (1.Ermentrude1) was born in 847; died on 29 Sep 865 in Buzanpcais, France.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 9264B0EE45234FE4AFD0A218B47F235917E1


  4. 5.  Hersent, Duchess Of LorraineHersent, Duchess Of Lorraine Descendancy chart to this point (1.Ermentrude1) was born about 865 in Lorraine, France; and died.

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    • _UID: 301470AED2004AC2AF05A82B0021684C9C91

    Hersent married Duke Rainer I Longhals (Regnier) Of LORRAINE in 889. Rainer (son of Giselbert, Count Of Moselle Maasgau and Ermengarde (Irmgard), Duchess Of The Moselle) was born in 860 in Hainault, Belgium; died in 916 in Meersen, Palatine. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 11. Duke/ Gilbert, Of Lorraine  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 890 in Of Reims, Lorraine, France; died on 2 Oct 939 in Andernach, Rhineland, Prussia.


Generation: 3

  1. 6.  Ermentrud Of WestfrankenErmentrud Of Westfranken Descendancy chart to this point (2.Louis2, 1.Ermentrude1) was born in 875; and died.

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    • _UID: 34EDA4452A9641119137C651066DD561A4D5

    Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 12. Kunegund  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 890-895 in Aachen, Rhineland, Prussia; and died.

  2. 7.  Charles III "The Simple", King Of FranceCharles III "The Simple", King Of France Descendancy chart to this point (2.Louis2, 1.Ermentrude1) was born on 17 Sep 879 in France; died on 7 Oct 929 in Paeronne, Austrasia.

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    • Name: The Simple
    • Occupation: King
    • _UID: A0D5564A590F4A7AB3851FF910D53342EB29
    • Alt. Birth: 17 Sep 879, France; Alt. Birth
    • Alt. Death: 7 Oct 929, Paeronne, Austrasia; Alt. Death

    Notes:

    King of France

    Family/Spouse: Edgifu Ogive Princess Of ENGLAND. Edgifu (daughter of Edward I "The Elder" King Of ENGLAND, King Of England and Elfleda Of ETHELHELM, Queen Of England) was born about 904 in Wessex, England; died after 951. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Charles married Edgifu Ogive Princess Of ENGLAND about 905 in France. Edgifu (daughter of Edward I "The Elder" King Of ENGLAND, King Of England and Elfleda Of ETHELHELM, Queen Of England) was born about 904 in Wessex, England; died after 951. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 13. Louis IV "Transmarinus", King Of France  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 10 Sep 921 in Of Laon, Champagne, France; died on 10 Sep 954 in Abbaye DE St. Raemy, Reims, Champagne, France.

  3. 8.  Guinidilda DE FLANDERSGuinidilda DE FLANDERS Descendancy chart to this point (3.Judith2, 1.Ermentrude1) and died.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 558CF5CE271D46FC88EDD0537BD03403440C

    Family/Spouse: Guifre (Wilfred) I 'The Hairy' DE URGEL, Count Of Barcelona. Guifre and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 14. Gunhilde Of URGEL  Descendancy chart to this point

  4. 9.  Baudouin II "The Bald", Count Of FlandersBaudouin II "The Bald", Count Of Flanders Descendancy chart to this point (3.Judith2, 1.Ermentrude1) was born in 863; died on 10 Sep 918.

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    • Name: The Bald
    • _UID: 98F0D740005044158B1300C8B3A4C404CD70

    Family/Spouse: Elftrudis Of Wessex. Elftrudis died in 929. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 15. Arnulf I, Count Of Flanders  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 918 in France; died on 27 Mar 964.

  5. 10.  Count Rudolph (Raoul) Of CAMBREYCount Rudolph (Raoul) Of CAMBREY Descendancy chart to this point (3.Judith2, 1.Ermentrude1) was born about 867 in Flanders, Nord, France; died on 17 Jun 896.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 5888DA806E7A49B8B8CFA335459039BF4FD5


  6. 11.  Duke/ Gilbert, Of LorraineDuke/ Gilbert, Of Lorraine Descendancy chart to this point (5.Hersent2, 1.Ermentrude1) was born about 890 in Of Reims, Lorraine, France; died on 2 Oct 939 in Andernach, Rhineland, Prussia.

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    • Alt. Birth: 890 ?, Reims, Lorraine, France; Alt. Birth
    • _UID: E4477D5A2CBE4ADCBABD571F02DB69BB0071
    • Alt. Death: 2 Oct 939, Andernach, Rhineland, Prussia; Alt. Death

    Notes:

    Duke of Lorraine

    Gilbert married Gerberge, Queen Of France in 29 Jan. Gerberge (daughter of Henry I "The Fowler", King Of The Germans and Mathilda Von RINGELHEIM, Countess Of Ringelheim) was born in 913-914 in Nordhausen, Saxony, Prussia; died on 5 May 984 in Reims, Champagne, France; was buried in Reims, Champagne, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 16. F Lorraine Gerberge, Princess Of Lorraine  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 925 in Of Lorraine, France; and died.
    2. 17. Alberade Of Mons DE LORRAINE  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 930 in Of Lorraine, France; died on 15 Mar 973.
    3. 18. Henri, Duke Of Lorraine  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 932 in Of Lorraine, France; and died.
    4. 19. Ia/ Wiltrude, Duchess Of Bavaria  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 937; and died.


Generation: 4

  1. 12.  KunegundKunegund Descendancy chart to this point (6.Ermentrud3, 2.Louis2, 1.Ermentrude1) was born in 890-895 in Aachen, Rhineland, Prussia; and died.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 2080B311CAF74FDCB8FBF6EFD6C4B774ADA0

    Kunegund married Wigerich, Count Of Bidgau & Ardenn before 910. Wigerich was born about 882 in Aachen, Rhineland, Prussia; died before 919. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 20. Gozello Von ARDENNES  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 911 in Aachen, Rhineland, Prussia; died on 18 Dec 943.
    2. 21. Siegfried, Count Von Luxemberg  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 915-917; died on 26 Oct 997.

  2. 13.  Louis IV "Transmarinus", King Of FranceLouis IV "Transmarinus", King Of France Descendancy chart to this point (7.Charles3, 2.Louis2, 1.Ermentrude1) was born on 10 Sep 921 in Of Laon, Champagne, France; died on 10 Sep 954 in Abbaye DE St. Raemy, Reims, Champagne, France.

    Other Events:

    • Name: Transmarinus
    • Occupation: King
    • _UID: 37FB5FF4858948E4AE9357C1C6184968A74C
    • Alt. Birth: 10 Sep 921, Laon, Champagne, France; Alt. Birth
    • Alt. Death: 10 Sep 954, Abbaye DE St. Raemy, Reims, Champagne, France; Alt. Death

    Notes:

    King of France

    Louis married Gerberge, Queen Of France on 25 Apr 954 in France. Gerberge (daughter of Henry I "The Fowler", King Of The Germans and Mathilda Von RINGELHEIM, Countess Of Ringelheim) was born in 913-914 in Nordhausen, Saxony, Prussia; died on 5 May 984 in Reims, Champagne, France; was buried in Reims, Champagne, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 22. King Lothaire Of FRANCE  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 941 in Laon, Champagne, France; died on 2 Mar 986 in Compi?gne, Braines, France.
    2. 23. Charles, Prince Of France  Descendancy chart to this point was born before 953 in Loan, Champagne, France; died on 21 May 992-994 in Kerker, Orlaeans, France; was buried in St. Servatius, Maastricht.

  3. 14.  Gunhilde Of URGELGunhilde Of URGEL Descendancy chart to this point (8.Guinidilda3, 3.Judith2, 1.Ermentrude1)

    Other Events:

    • _UID: FF210C0BF0D3497AB3EBED70F0E0616049D0

    Family/Spouse: Raymond II Of TOULOUSE, Count Of Toulouse. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 24. Raymond III Pons Of TOULOUSE, Count Of Toulouse  Descendancy chart to this point

  4. 15.  Arnulf I, Count Of FlandersArnulf I, Count Of Flanders Descendancy chart to this point (9.Baudouin3, 3.Judith2, 1.Ermentrude1) was born in 918 in France; died on 27 Mar 964.

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    • _UID: 8C0CA9566E134B14AC66EE98CF008D0873BF

    Notes:

    ARNOUL I 918-964, BAUDOUIN III (d 962)

    ARNOUL de Flandre, son of BAUDOUIN II "le Chauve" Count of Flanders & his wife ?lfthryth of Wessex ([885/890]-murdered 27 Mar 964, bur Gent, St Pieter). The Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis names (in order) "Arnulfum, fratrem eius Adelulfum" as the two sons of "Balduinus"[103]. "Arnulfus" is named as son of Count Baudouin II in the Cartulaire de Saint-Bertin, which specifies that he succeeded his father in 918 as ARNOUL I "le Grand" Count of Flanders[104]. "Elstrudis comitissa?cum filiis suis Arnulfo et Adelolfo" donated "hereditatem suam Liefsham?in terra Anglorum in Cantia" to Saint-Pierre de Gand, for the soul of "senioris sui Baldwini", by charter dated 11 Sep 918[105]. Count Arnoul I was responsible for a major expansion of Flemish territory to the south. He and his brother joined the expedition of Raoul King of the Franks against the Normans in 925 and captured Eu. Count Arnoul inflicted a heavy defeat on the Normans in 926. In 932, he seized the abbey of St Vaast, as well as Douai in Ostrevant. In 933, after his brother's death, he seized Boulonnais and Ternois and disinherited his nephews. Count Arnoul made an alliance with H?ribert II Comte de Vermandois in 934, which was sealed by his marriage to the latter's daughter[106]. Responding to raids by Guillaume Comte [de Normandie], Count Arnoul invaded Ponthieu and in 939 captured Montreuil from Herluin Comte de Ponthieu, although the county was later recaptured by Comte Guillaume's forces. "Arnulfus?regis?marchysus" restored property to Saint-Pierre de Gand by charter dated 8 Jul 941, signed by "?Baldwini filii Arnulfi marchysi, Isaac comitis, Arnulfi filii eius, Theoderici comitis, Wenemari advocati?"[107]. After agreeing to meet Count Guillaume in 942 in order to settle the dispute over Montreuil, Guillaume was murdered, presumably at Count Arnoul's instigation[108]. Count Arnoul was secure in his possession of Montreuil by 949[109]. "Arnulfus Flandrie comes et marchisus" granted use of property "Snellenghem in pago Flandrensi" to Saint-Pierre de Gand, for "uxore mea?Adala atque?filio meo Balduino et filia mea Lietgardis" and for deceased "Balduino genitore meo et Elstrudis genetrice mea atque Heeberto filio meo", and returned "in pago Hainau super fluvio Savo villam?Dulciaca", by charter dated 10 Jul 953[110]. After the death of his son in 962, Count Arnoul was obliged to cede Artois, Ostrevant, Ponthieu and Amiens to Lothaire King of the West Franks in order to ensure the latter's support for the succession of Count Arnoul's infant grandson to the county of Flanders[111]. "Arnulfus marchysus" donated property to Saint-Pierre de Gand by charter dated 5 May 962, signed by "?Baldwini advocati, Theoderici comitis?"[112]. "Arnulfus?comes" donated "villam Canlin" to Saint-Pierre de Gand by charter dated 17 Jun 962, signed by "?Balduini advocati?"[113]. An undated charter, dated to [962], records the last wishes of "marchysi Arnulfi", noting that "pater meus et mater mea" were buried in the abbey of Saint-Pierre de Gand[114]. Comte Arnoul was allegedly murdered by Heluin in revenge for the murder of Guillaume I Comte [de Normandie]. The Annales Blandinienses record the death "VI Kal Apr 964" of "Magnus Arnulfus, restaurator huius Blandiniensis coenobii"[115]. A charter dated 2 Jul 964 records the donation by "bone memorie Arnulfus marchysus" to Saint-Pierre de Gand, signed by "Odgaudi qui susceptor traditionis fuit?Ingelberti advocati?"[116].
    [m firstly ---. Both R?sch[117] and Europ?ische Stammtafeln[118] state that Count Arnoul had another wife before marrying Adela de Vermandois. No evidence has been found concerning this supposed first marriage. However, as discussed below, the estimated birth date of Arnoul?s supposed daughter Hildegard, as well as his own advanced age when he married Adela de Vermandois, both suggest an earlier marriage. Although logic points to such a first marriage, doubt remains. The genealogical traces of this family are well marked in numerous contemporary sources. It is difficult to imagine that all such sources would have ignored an earlier marriage of Comte Arnoul, who was such a prominent figure in his day.]
    m [secondly] (934) ADELA de Vermandois, daughter of HERIBERT [II] Comte de Vermandois [Carolingian] & his wife Adela [Capet] ([915]-[Bruges 10 Oct] 960, bur Gent, St Pieter). The Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis names "Adelam, domni Heriberti comitis filiam" as wife of "comes Arnulfus", specifying that she was "duorum Francorum regum, Odonis atque Rotberti, neptem"[119]. "Adala coniunx Arnulfi" is named in the Cartulaire de Saint-Bertin[120]. The Annales Elnonenses Minores record the marriage [undated between 931 and 949] of "Arnulfus" and "Adelam, filiam Heriberti Vermandorum comitis"[121]. Her marriage was arranged to seal the alliance made in 934 between her father and her future husband[122]. "Arnulfus Flandrie comes et marchisus" granted use of property "Snellenghem in pago Flandrensi" to Saint-Pierre de Gand, for "uxore mea?Adala atque?filio meo Balduino et filia mea Lietgardis" and for deceased "Balduino genitore meo et Elstrudis genetrice mea atque Heeberto filio meo", by charter dated 10 Jul 953[123]. "Adhela comitissa" freed two serfs and granted them to the abbey of Saint-Pierre de Gand, for the soul of "fidelis nostri Amalrici", by charter dated 8 Sep 954, signed by "Balduini comitis?Odacri advocati"[124]. The Annales Blandinienses record the death in 960 of "Adala comitissa"[125].
    Count Arnoul I & his [first] wife had one child:
    1. [HILDEGARD ([before 933]-10 Apr 990, bur Egmond). The Annales Egmundani name "Hildegardis comitissa" as wife of "Theodericus comes secundus [Hollandensium]" but do not give her origin[126]. The wife of Count Dirk II was the daughter of Count Arnoul according to R?sch, but the author cites no primary source in support of this assertion[127]. Hildegard's naming her two sons Arnulf and Egbert suggests that the affiliation may be correct. According to Europ?ische Stammtafeln[128], Hildegard was the daughter of Count Arnoul by Adela de Vermandois and was born in [934]. This appears difficult to sustain chronologically if Hildegard's first son was born in [950], although it is not impossible. Assuming that her sister Liutgard was born in 935, there is little time for the birth of an earlier daughter after Count Arnoul's marriage in 934, assuming also that the latter date is correct. This suggests that, if Hildegard was the daughter of Count Arnoul, she was born from an earlier otherwise unrecorded marriage. An alternative parentage is suggested by the Chronologia Johannes de Beke which records that Count Dirk II married "Hildegardim (ut creditor) filiam Ludovici regis Francie"[129]. This is chronologically impossible, assuming that the birth date of Arnoul Count of Holland is correctly estimated as shown in the document HOLLAND. Hildegard daughter of Louis III King of France would have been too old for the marriage and any daughter of Louis IV King of France would have been too young. It is also unlikely that the wife of Count Dirk II was a daughter of Charles III "le Simple" King of France, the birth dates of whose daughters are estimated to [908/16]. There therefore seems no possibility that the Chronologia could even be partially correct in assigning this possible Carolingian French origin to Dirk's wife, although it is curious how this origin came to be included in the source. "Theodericus comes et uxor sua Hildegardis" are named in a charter dated Oct [967/79][130]. "Theoderici et Hildegardis" subscribed a charter dated 30 Sep 975, before "Arnulfi filii eorum [Theoderici et Hildegardis]"[131]. The Chronologia Johannes de Beke records the death "III Id Apr" of "Hildegardis?sua conthoralis" and her burial at Egmond monastery[132]. The Chronologia Johannes de Beke records the death "III Id Apr" of "Hildegardis?sua conthoralis" and her burial at Egmond monastery[133]. Beke's Egmondsch Necrologium records the death "IV Id Apr" of "Hildegardis uxor [Theoderici 2 comitis] filia Ludovici regis Francie"[134]. Europ?ische Stammtafeln shows 990 as Hildegarde?s year of death[135], but the primary source on which this is based has not yet been identified. m ([945/50]) DIRK II Count Holland, son of DIRK I Count of Holland & his wife Geva --- ([930]-Egmond 6 May 988, bur Egmond).]
    Count Arnoul I & his [second] wife had four children:
    2. LIUTGARD de Flandre ([935]-962, before 18 Oct). Boer and Cordfunke refer to a 938 meeting, between Count Dirk I, Count Meginhard of Hamaland, and Count Arnulf I of Flanders and his wife Adela, to arrange the betrothals of Hildegard of Flanders and Count Dirk II (son of Count Dirk I), and of her sister Liutgard and Wichmann of Hamaland (son of Count Meginhard)[136]. The meeting is alleged to be recorded in the Verbr?derungsbuch der Abtei Reichenau, but no trace of this has been found in the copy consulted[137]. "Arnulfus Flandrie comes et marchisus" granted use of property "Snellenghem in pago Flandrensi" to Saint-Pierre de Gand, for "uxore mea?Adala atque?filio meo Balduino et filia mea Lietgardis" and for deceased "Balduino genitore meo et Elstrudis genetrice mea atque Heeberto filio meo", by charter dated 10 Jul 953[138]. This document suggests that Liutgard was not married at the time. "Wicmannus?comes" donated "mei juris villam Thesla" to Saint-Pierre de Gand, for the soul of "coniugis mee defuncte Lietgardis", by charter dated 18 Oct 962, signed by "comitis Arnulfi patris supradicte Lietgardis comitisse, Theoderici comitis?"[139]. The Iohannis de Thilrode Chronicon records the donation dated 962 by "Wicmannus comes?pro remedio anima coniugis mea Lietgardis?Arnulphi marchisi Flandrie patris" of "villam Thessela?Desselbergine" to "monasterio Sancti Petri in Blandino"[140]. The Annales Blandinienses record the deaths in 962 of "Baldwinus, filius Arnulfi marchisi, et soror eius Liutgardis"[141]. m ([after 10 Jul 953]) WICHMANN [V] Graaf van Hamaland, son of --- [Billung] & his wife Gerberga --- ([930]-after 27 Sep 979).
    3. BAUDOUIN de Flandres ([935/40]-Abbey of St Bertin 1 Jan 962). His parentage is specified in the Cartulaire de Saint-Bertin[142]. "?Baldwini filii Arnulfi marchysi?" signed the charter dated 8 Jul 941 under which "Arnulfus?regis?marchysus" restored property to Saint-Pierre de Gand[143]. "Arnulfus Flandrie comes et marchisus" granted use of property "Snellenghem in pago Flandrensi" to Saint-Pierre de Gand, for "uxore mea?Adala atque?filio meo Balduino et filia mea Lietgardis" and for deceased "Balduino genitore meo et Elstrudis genetrice mea atque Heeberto filio meo", by charter dated 10 Jul 953[144]. He ruled with his father from 958[145] as BAUDOUIN III joint Count of Flanders and Artois, his father granting him the administration of the south of the county[146]. A charter dated to 20 Jan [958/61] records the peace settlement agreed by "Baulduin?Marquis" between the abbey of Saint-Pierre de Gand and the avou?s of Douchy, although this document is unlikely to be contemporary in the form shown in the compilation as it is written in old French[147]. The Annales Blandinienses record the deaths in 962 of "Baldwinus, filius Arnulfi marchisi, et soror eius Liutgardis"[148]. The Annales Egmundani record the death in 962 of "Baldwinus filius Arnulfi marchisi Flandrensium"[149]. m ([951/59]) as her first husband, MECHTILD of Saxony, daughter of HERMANN Billung Duke in Saxony & his [first/second] wife [Oda ---/Hildesuit ---] ([942]-Gent 25 May 1008, bur Gent St Peter). "Mathilda Saxonici generic" is named as wife of Count Baudouin in the Cartulaire de Saint-Bertin[150]. The Annalista Saxo names (in order) "Bennonis ducis, qui et Bernhardus et Liudigeri comitis et Machtildis comitisse" as brothers and sister of "domna Suanehildis [filia] Herimanni ducis de Liuniburh", recording the names of Mechtild's two husbands[151]. The Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis names "Mathildis, filiam principis Herimanni" as wife of "Balduinum [filius comitis Arnulfi]", specifying that it was hoped the couple would have many children[152]. This suggests that their marriage date may have been some years earlier than 961 considering that the Genealogia was supposedly compiled in [951/59], probably during the earlier part of this date range considering which children of Louis IV King of the West Franks are named in the document[153]. Mechtild married secondly ([963]) Godefroi Comte de Verdun [Wigeriche] (-3/4 Sep after 995, bur Gent St Peter). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Mathildis comitissa Saxonie" as wife of "Godefridi Ardennensis"[154]. The Annales Blandinienses record the death in 1008 of "Mathildis comitissa"[155]. The necrology of L?neburg records the death "25 May" of "Mattild com"[156]. Baudouin III & his wife had one child:
    a) ARNOUL de Flandre ([961/62]-30 Mar 987, bur Gent). The Annales Elnonenses Minores record "Arnulfus, filius Balduini ex Matilde"[157] succeeding his grandfather in 964 as ARNOUL II ?le Jeune? Count of Flanders.
    - see below.
    Baudouin III had one possible illegitimate son by an unknown mistress:
    b) [ALBERIC [Albert] ([960/62]-1018). The Gesta Episcoporum Camerancensium name "Azelinus, de Truncinis villa, Balduini Flandrensium comitis de concubina filius", specifying that he was later appointed Bishop of Paris, in the passage recording the succession of "Erluinus" as Bishop of Cambrai (in 995)[158]. Bishop of Paris 1016-1018. According to the Dictionnaire de Biographie Fran?aise[159], "Albert" was provost at Tronchiennes 951-977 but this is chronologically impossible assuming that the entry refers to the same person. If the information about his paternity is correct, Baudouin III is the only count of that name in Flanders who could have been Alberic/Albert?s father. Another possibility is that the chronicle was in error and that he was the illegitimate half-brother of Baudouin IV Count of Flanders, who was count at the time the text was written but who would have been too young to have been Alberic's father.]
    4. EGBERT de Flandre (-before 10 Jul 953). "Arnulfus Flandrie comes et marchisus" granted use of property "Snellenghem in pago Flandrensi" to Saint-Pierre de Gand, for "uxore mea?Adala atque?filio meo Balduino et filia mea Lietgardis" and for deceased "Balduino genitore meo et Elstrudis genetrice mea atque Heeberto filio meo", by charter dated 10 Jul 953[160]. Egbert?s absence from the charter dated 8 Jul 941, under which "Arnulfus?regis?marchysus" restored property to Saint-Pierre de Gand, signed by "?Baldwini filii Arnulfi marchysi?"[161], suggests that he must have been a younger son.
    5. ELSTRUDE de Flandre (-966[162] or after). The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium names "comes Balduinus sororem?Elstrudem" as wife of "Sifridus"[163]. According to the Chronica Monasterii Sancti Bertini, the couple were never married[164]. m ([960/65]) SIEGFRIED Comte de Guines, son of --- (-[965]).

    Arnulf married Adela DE VERMANDOIS in 934. Adela (daughter of Heribert II, Count Of Vermandois and Adela Of Neustria) was born in 910; died in 960. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 25. Baudouin III Count Of FLANDERS  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 940 in Of, Flandres; died on 1 Nov 962.

  5. 16.  F Lorraine Gerberge, Princess Of LorraineF Lorraine Gerberge, Princess Of Lorraine Descendancy chart to this point (11.Gilbert3, 5.Hersent2, 1.Ermentrude1) was born about 925 in Of Lorraine, France; and died.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 020886573E9C46ACBF4C7C42AAAFA056CB44
    • Alt. Birth: Abt 925, Lorraine, France; Alt. Birth

    Gerberge married Albert I The Pious, Count Of Vermandois about 954 in France. Albert and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  6. 17.  Alberade Of Mons DE LORRAINEAlberade Of Mons DE LORRAINE Descendancy chart to this point (11.Gilbert3, 5.Hersent2, 1.Ermentrude1) was born about 930 in Of Lorraine, France; died on 15 Mar 973.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: B2492F72395346C8A56D841297372BE6BD96

    Family/Spouse: Duke Rainer I Longhals (Regnier) Of LORRAINE. Rainer (son of Giselbert, Count Of Moselle Maasgau and Ermengarde (Irmgard), Duchess Of The Moselle) was born in 860 in Hainault, Belgium; died in 916 in Meersen, Palatine. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 26. Count Rainer II (Regnier) Of HAINAULT  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 892 in Hainault, Belgium; died in 932.

    Family/Spouse: Renaud De ROUCY. Renaud was born about 931 in Reims, Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, France; died on 15 Mar 973. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 27. Gilbert De ROUCY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 956 in Reims, Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, France; died about 985 in Reims, Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, France.
    2. 28. Ermentrude (Irmtrude) RHEIMS  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 957; died in Mar 1005.

  7. 18.  Henri, Duke Of LorraineHenri, Duke Of Lorraine Descendancy chart to this point (11.Gilbert3, 5.Hersent2, 1.Ermentrude1) was born about 932 in Of Lorraine, France; and died.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 4FC57E403A8949A394C8AFC8E372B883E4BE
    • Alt. Birth: Abt 932, Lorraine, France; Alt. Birth


  8. 19.  Ia/ Wiltrude, Duchess Of BavariaIa/ Wiltrude, Duchess Of Bavaria Descendancy chart to this point (11.Gilbert3, 5.Hersent2, 1.Ermentrude1) was born about 937; and died.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 1987D8EABB70485CB9BBD4A2E7FFCDA876AD
    • Alt. Birth: Abt 937; Alt. Birth
    • Alt. Birth: Abt 937, Of Lorraine, France; Alt. Birth